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Old 04-16-2013, 09:44 AM
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automatic carriage door openers, anyone used one?

Im working on improving a 1929 2 family rental property right now. It has a set of original wood carriage doors that open into a basement 2 car garage area.
Basically my agenda is to bring things up to code, modernize horribly outdated and broken stuff, and do a hell of a lot of scraping, sanding, and painting.

Its part of what was a 4 house city development in the late 20s, and all 4 houses are set on a hill with under house garages. Over the years, the other three houses have all been converted to overhead vinyl doors, and IMO, it really destroys the character of the house, even for the one where the definitely spent big money on the replacement overheads.
The one im working on is definitely in the worst shape as far as exterior trim and repair, yet is the most interesting from the street because of these carriage doors with glass windows, and nice arches above. I really don't want to remove them.

At the same time, the tenant has asked about improving their utility, and I have to admit, they are a PITA to open and close. The driveway is a cut out of the hill meaning you are opening your driver door in a narrow space right into a concrete wall, and you have to get out of your car, open the right side door, open a floor lock, open a ceiling lock, then open both doors until the lock in position, pull car in, then unlock the open position, close, redo all the other locks and whatnot.

I did have a garage door guy come by and quote on some overhead doors, and since the size (width) would have to be custom, it was a 7-10k quote to do both. This would explain why on the other 3 houses whoever did the conversion built about 2 feet out from the original side of the house to accomodate the track system for a stock width

since then, I found this company that sells these interesting carriage door openers-

Real Carriage Door Hardware - Carriage Door Openers

The one im most interested in is this one-

Real Carriage Door Hardware - Carriage Door Openers

Its A. cheaper, B. will work much better with the interior ceiling of the garage, which is odd.
I have never ever seen one of these. Anyone used one or installed one?

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Old 04-16-2013, 10:46 AM
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thats actually really cool, shouldnt be too hard to install by the looks of it
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maybe another option with something like these guys have. GTO or Mighty Mule... Though that overhead thing on your links looks like the simple way.

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I assume that all current locks and latches would have to be rendered inoperable once the automatic system is installed. If so, would these doors be very secure?
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maybe another option with something like these guys have. GTO or Mighty Mule... Though that overhead thing on your links looks like the simple way.

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thanks for the link!
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:59 AM
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I assume that all current locks and latches would have to be rendered inoperable once the automatic system is installed. If so, would these doors be very secure?

The company states that the security would be the same as a normal overhead door, IE, the motor holds the door closed and in place. Basically, the representative said that security concerns may have to do with the structure of the door itself, if its flimsy/warped enough to pry open on the bottom and break, otherwise, its as difficult to open as a standard overhead

Yeah, all current locks and latches would have to be removed or changed. I did ask them about leaving a pair of surface bolts on the outer doors for locking if need be, and I have to call back to make sure that the motor will in fact shut off if the door is locked and not destroy itself.

The system has all the normal overhead door stuff, sensors to shut off if something walks across the opening, and I will need a keypad opener for the tenants who are avid bikers and will not be carrying a remote around to open it.

So far so good, this company has some pretty impressive reviews, I might do this next month

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