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Old 05-29-2013, 05:10 PM
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The IRS has hired a high dollar lawyer AT TAXPAYER EXPEN$E! Will the lawyers for the organizations that have been hassled have big gun lawyers at the governments expense? I kind of doubt it. These beauracrats are seriously out of control.

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Wouldn't any lawyer working for the IRS be at "taxpayer expen$e?"
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:52 PM
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I remember when the Republicans hired a big time lawyer at taxpayers expense to go after Bill Clinton.

Sixteen million dollars later.....

But no Conservative at the time had any problem with this.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:56 PM
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And......

It is beginning to appear as if some of these groups that were 'hassled' by the IRS were nothing but scams designed to get Republicans elected while hiding behind a tax exempt status that allowed them to shield the names of their donors.

It is the job of the IRS to determine who is running a legit operation and who is trying to scam Uncle Sam out of money that is owed to the government. So a case can easily be made that a group that was set up to cheat the government is now suing for damages because they got caught trying to rip-off the government.

But Conservatives don't seem to have a problem with any of this.

I wonder why?
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:28 PM
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Don't forget all those horrible IRS funded auditors and accountants! Can you believe that!?
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I remember when the Republicans hired a big time lawyer at taxpayers expense to go after Bill Clinton.

Sixteen million dollars later.....

But no Conservative at the time had any problem with this.
Oh? You mean the government paid for a lawyer to DEFEND Bill Clinton? Silly me, I thought that they paid for an investigation. Learn something new everyday around here.

I think that Bill Clinton, to his credit, paid for his own defense, albeit with donated money, but it was not paid for by the taxpayer.

Are you capable of understanding the difference?
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Wouldn't any lawyer working for the IRS be at "taxpayer expen$e?"
Yes, but defense would be defending the actions of an individual. An individual should be paying for their own defense. It is not the responsibility of the taxpayer to pay a $500 per hour lawyer to defend govt employed criminals.
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Don't forget all those horrible IRS funded auditors and accountants! Can you believe that!?
So when those INDIVIDUALS need defense, the taxpayer is responsible for their $500 per hour lawyer?
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And......

It is beginning to appear as if some of these groups that were 'hassled' by the IRS were nothing but scams designed to get Republicans elected while hiding behind a tax exempt status that allowed them to shield the names of their donors.

It is the job of the IRS to determine who is running a legit operation and who is trying to scam Uncle Sam out of money that is owed to the government. So a case can easily be made that a group that was set up to cheat the government is now suing for damages because they got caught trying to rip-off the government.

But Conservatives don't seem to have a problem with any of this.

I wonder why?
If they are scamming, throw the bastards in jail, but investigate the democrat groups too, don't concentrate on the opposition only. Are you capable of understanding the difference?
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Would it be better if the DoJ defended the IRS? I think some conservatives might be irked at that. The IRS is an entity, not an individual. If they are being sued in court then the defense must have a defense attorney. That attorney will be paid by ......?
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Would it be better if the DoJ defended the IRS? I think some conservatives might be irked at that. The IRS is an entity, not an individual. If they are being sued in court then the defense must have a defense attorney. That attorney will be paid by ......?
So they get a high dollar attorney? They don't deserve any more than some ambulance chaser at about $25 an hour. If there is illegal behavior, it was done by an individual. That individual pays for their own defense AFAIAC.

If the persons using the IRS were liberals, would the IRS have $500 an hour attorneys?
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So when those INDIVIDUALS need defense, the taxpayer is responsible for their $500 per hour lawyer?
If the defendant is an organization, then that organization pays for their defense. If an individual is the defendant then an individual pays the defense. Are you capable of understanding the difference?
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So they get a high dollar attorney? They don't deserve any more than some ambulance chaser at about $25 an hour. If there is illegal behavior, it was done by an individual. That individual pays for their own defense AFAIAC.

If the persons using the IRS were liberals, would the IRS have $500 an hour attorneys?
And what if it was done by the organization and not an individual?
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If the defendant is an organization, then that organization pays for their defense. If an individual is the defendant then an individual pays the defense. Are you capable of understanding the difference?
You do know who you're asking, right? And if you do . . . why are you asking?
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And......

It is beginning to appear as if some of these groups that were 'hassled' by the IRS were nothing but scams designed to get Republicans elected while hiding behind a tax exempt status that allowed them to shield the names of their donors.

It is the job of the IRS to determine who is running a legit operation and who is trying to scam Uncle Sam out of money that is owed to the government. So a case can easily be made that a group that was set up to cheat the government is now suing for damages because they got caught trying to rip-off the government.

But Conservatives don't seem to have a problem with any of this.

I wonder why?
Because most Conservatives (except for those on this forum, of course) are Fox News-watching scumbags. Next question?

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