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Old 06-19-2013, 10:01 AM
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More voter registration fraud....

These stories need all the attention they can get. I guess there are some out there that think they are so smart they can get away with this crime, but thankfully this is not the case.

Bassett Man Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud, Perjury - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather

But apparently election officials are getting better at detecting this and acting on it. One case in Indiana a few weeks ago took five years to bring to a close. At least this one stems from 2011.

I think at the root of this problem are paid petition runners. If they are getting paid for each 'voter' they sign up then they are not only violating election laws but they are also scamming the group paying them to run the petition.

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Old 06-19-2013, 10:13 AM
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Regardless of which side you're cheering for, this crap needs to end.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:36 AM
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You're right JP, but it won't. A few months ago, they were interviewing an Obama supporter in Ohio that admitted, in her mind was bragging about, voting 14 times on the same day.

There should be a super serious penalty for voter fraud, and VOTER ID should be required. That alone would knock out much of it.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:41 AM
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You're right JP, but it won't. A few months ago, they were interviewing an Obama supporter in Ohio that admitted, in her mind was bragging about, voting 14 times on the same day.

There should be a super serious penalty for voter fraud, and VOTER ID should be required. That alone would knock out much of it.
As least in Federal elections. Standards for state/local voting should be left up to the localities.

(Some states like Maryland allow non-citizen residents to vote in local elections, and NYC is considering this right now.)

Why You Have Nothing To Fear From Non-Citizen Voting | ThinkProgress
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:45 AM
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I don't care WHO requires Voter ID for the elections, just do it unless everyone is happy with compromised elections.

I don't have a problem with LEGAL non-citizens voting in local elections, but they should be required to present photo id as well.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:00 AM
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I don't care WHO requires Voter ID for the elections, just do it unless everyone is happy with compromised elections.
Didn't you catch some minor election official committing voter fraud and wind up looking the other way? You were happy with a compromised election, why do we have to be held to a higher standard? Do as I say, not as I do?
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:51 AM
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Regardless of which side you're cheering for, this crap needs to end.
As long as there is a profit there will be fraud. If there is cash money to be made a true scam artist will only be cheering only for themselves.

I think the true partisan hack that is willing to risk prison time is rare, but there are always lots of folks thinking they can pick up a fast buck for doing nothing, and the more respectable a name they can tie themselves to the easier it is to do.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:54 AM
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And while not criminal there is always a lot of misinformation pushed out for the consumption of the low information voter. This is a fraud in a moral sense, but I don't see anyway to stop it except for questioning everything and demanding accurate reporting.

snopes.com: 2012 Voter Fraud
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When My Grandmother was a young thing in the 1920s She actively worked for the Democratic Party.
What She told Me was "They stuffed the Ballot Boxes and so did We".
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:23 PM
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Fans of the Baltimore Orioles, and using their experience in the State of Maryland, are stuffing the MLB All Star voting--look how many O's are at, or near the top in AL voting:
American League All-Star fan voting - ESPN
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:50 PM
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When My Grandmother was a young thing in the 1920s She actively worked for the Democratic Party.
What She told Me was "They stuffed the Ballot Boxes and so did We".
The real high point in ballot box stuffing was in NYC. Tammany Hall, which was a Democratic outfit, showed everyone else how to really stuff ballot boxes.

It also lad to a spate of laws across the country to shut down such stuffings. If you are wondering why liquor stores are closed on election day it is to keep someone from buying you a bottle of booze in order to get your vote.

Yup, that's old school vote rigging!

By the way.... The Tammany's existed as a political machine from 1686 to 1938, but the real ballot stuffing took place under Boss Tweed. Boss Tweed tore through New York politics from 1852 to 1877 when he was finally arrested for stealing $45,000,000 from the taxpayers.

That's about Eight billion Dollars in 2013 money!
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:04 PM
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... a true politician will only be cheering for themselves.
Fixed it for ya!!
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:30 PM
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You're right JP, but it won't. A few months ago, they were interviewing an Obama supporter in Ohio that admitted, in her mind was bragging about, voting 14 times on the same day.

There should be a super serious penalty for voter fraud, and VOTER ID should be required. That alone would knock out much of it.
And your source for this important piece of information is??????
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You're right JP, but it won't. A few months ago, they were interviewing an Obama supporter in Ohio that admitted, in her mind was bragging about, voting 14 times on the same day.

There should be a super serious penalty for voter fraud, and VOTER ID should be required. That alone would knock out much of it.
Not unless there's a database linking different jurisdictions and they all agree to tie in to the same computer system (HAH!). I still get ballots in my former home town in NJ (family still owns the house) five years after I last actually voted there. Voter registration is done on paper.

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