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barry12345 01-04-2020 03:54 PM

Yes the prior post basically sums up a lot of factors. To feel alone does create some concerns though for any individual. Religion may fill that gap for some real or otherwise.

I have never had an issue with people believing whatever they do. Within reason of course. This hard sell to increase ranks is problematic though in the organized religion framework.

Being composed of threats or blackmail essentially. We all probably believe in something. To me the sheer power of nature is very impressive. Or the fact we can even exist.

From solid evidence the odds against these two things to be present are staggering. Mans concept of time caters to his own situation. In the grand scheme of things it matters very little. Mans total existence on this planet will just be a flash in the pan I suspect.

Then there are rational beliefs. You for example can believe in the tooth fairy. As there are gay dentists around.

t walgamuth 01-11-2020 01:15 AM

I am agnostic but admire the teaching of Jesus and try to live by them. Don't tell my mom please.;)

barry12345 01-12-2020 03:16 AM

I also attempt to live in a reasonable way. I think it makes life easier in some ways. I do not know if I can attribute it to the writings in the bible though.


It just seems natural not to want to do many things. I believe I know right from wrong and have a conscience. Part of these things may be by genetic inheritance. I do agree you could also call it the Christian viewpoint.

P.C. 06-05-2020 12:07 PM

ttt

Yankee1 06-05-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3996077)
I am agnostic but admire the teaching of Jesus and try to live by them. Don't tell my mom please.;)

Our sense of morality, right & wrong, etc. evolved in tandem with our big brains and highly social behavior. We are far more successful creatures when we work together within a framework of common interests and good. Here we are, dominating a planet after a mere instant of geological time. It took other creatures tens of millions of years to similarly dominate their environment. You can't argue with success! Luck too; had that asteroid missed by a hair, it's anyone's guess what the natural world might look like today.

Various religions have done a decent job (with notable exceptions..) of codifying morality - credit where due. But so did philosophers, poets, songwriters, etc.

Air&Road 06-05-2020 11:07 PM

Nice try Master Baiter! (For the weakly literate here, that’s not the same as masturbater.)

Whoops, the OP resurrected this thread from before ODP&R into the OD. Hopefully someone can move this where it belongs.

davidmash 06-05-2020 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 4055862)
Nice try Master Baiter! (For the weakly literate here, that’s not the same as masturbater.)

Whoops, the OP resurrected this thread from before ODP&R into the OD. Hopefully someone can move this where it belongs.

Says the guy with no self control to ignore a thread.

P.C. 06-06-2020 02:48 AM

ttt

oldsinner111 06-06-2020 09:58 AM

reading scripture,and other ancient texts. I get the feeling man long ago thought these visitors from other worlds,or other spacetime,were Gods.The Godhead,or forces,created mankind as slaves,hence praying posistion to attach handcuffs. Satan who came later and crash landed a escape pod, Hated to godhead's enslavement of mankind. He taught us how to make weapons,armor,and educated mankind. With his help we fought off the masters,but their last act of cowardice,they let the earth experince a natural polar shift,with crustal displacement.Without shelters being built.Because earth goes thru these cycles of rebirth, and tilling under continents,they decided long term invasion,would be worthless.

oldsinner111 06-06-2020 10:03 AM

these gods with their advanced genitics, made space travel possible by lenghting their cells telemerores, so lifespans of 40,000 earth years were possible, and they could hibernate will traveling in space. Such are the truth of legends of advanced age. Ancient man left art showing animals,and human breeding half man,half some other creature to explain gene splicing.

oldsinner111 06-06-2020 10:05 AM

Satan killed no one,who did God billions

Mxfrank 06-07-2020 12:17 AM

I seem to have wandered onto the politics and religion board...again.

P.C. 06-09-2020 12:10 AM

Yeah, the origin of the thread predated the reorganization of Open Discussion...

P.C. 06-13-2020 09:34 PM

Yeah, the origin of the thread predated the reorganization of Open Discussion...

P.C. 06-16-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 4059222)
Yeah, the origin of the thread predated the reorganization of Open Discussion...

You sure about that?


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