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cmac2012 · #1 08-17-2013, 05:28 PM

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A recent flurry of research has focused on adult soda drinkers, pointing to increased risks of stroke, obesity, kidney damage, and high blood pressure. But this study, published Friday in the Journal of Pediatrics, focused on 5-year-old soda drinkers and behavioral problems, finding that those who drank four or more pops daily were more than twice as likely to attack others, fight with them or destroy their property.

Skippy · #2 08-17-2013, 06:44 PM

Could be the caffeine, could be the parenting. I wonder what would happen if those kids switched to coffee instead.

cmac2012 · #3 08-17-2013, 06:54 PM

Caffeine is a strong drug IMO. I abstained for a few years in my mid 20s and got back into it during the espresso boom in Seattle. Good Lord I got high on that stuff the first few times I imbibed. Probably did from then on but I noticed it more after being away from it.

Air&Road · #4 08-17-2013, 10:00 PM

Filling up little kids with sugared water makes them behave differently? Oh surely not.

What parent hasn't figured this out? If they haven't, they aren't paying any attention to their kids.

cmac2012 · #5 08-17-2013, 10:41 PM

Of course. OTOH, they have to compete with huge advertising budgets from some very deep pocketed corps. McDs has a $2B annual advertising budget. They make huge money from soft drinks.

layback40 · #6 08-17-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Filling up little kids with sugared water makes them behave differently? Oh surely not.

What parent hasn't figured this out? If they haven't, they aren't paying any attention to their kids.

Old school teachers trick ~ last 5 minutes of the day fill the kids up with lollies & other high sugar treats, sends the kids home as high as kites ! Payback for parents sending kids to school with sugary lunches after a sugar filled breakfast.

cmac2012 · #7 08-17-2013, 11:20 PM

^ Lucky kids.

TwitchKitty · #8 08-18-2013, 07:04 AM

Mercury in High Fructose Corn Syrup is drawing attention. Soda is full of HFCS.

I have played with a blood glucose tester like a diabetic uses to dose insulin. I am convinced that HFCS is worse for people than sugar.

Cancer is the second leading killer of children behind accidents. Leukemia is the leading cancer in children. Environmental factors are also directly linked to Leukemia in children. Killing kids for profit is bad form in my opinion. Profit from their destruction in other ways for 50 years or so and then you can still profit from killing them, slow death. Win, win.

Skippy · #9 08-18-2013, 06:34 PM

Are you saying that soda causes leukemia? This is my first time hearing that. Obesity and diabetes I can see the connection, but leukemia? Got a link to support that?

aklim · #10 08-18-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Filling up little kids with sugared water makes them behave differently? Oh surely not.

What parent hasn't figured this out? If they haven't, they aren't paying any attention to their kids.

I'm not a parent and so I am unaware of the sugar effect. I am however acutely aware of the fact that lunar new year is 15 days long. During which time, we would go to relatives houses and wish them a happy new year. The usual treats were all sugar laden. Based on your theory, every lunar new year, kids would be rioting if not worse. Obviously, after the new year ended, there would be leftovers of all kinds of sugar treats. Even if they all disappeared right after the 15 days, had it been the sugar, it would have resulted in massive rioting. Perhaps it is a weak excuse like "The devil made me do it" thing? Maybe the weak parents simply heard that sugar makes the kids act out and want to see it. Much like the placebo effect. So now, we have an excuse for the kids bad behavior that isn't liked to their failure as parents. "It's not my fault the kid did something stupid. It's the devil, I mean sugar that made him do it. I was a good parent but hey, who can help it when the kid acts up under the influence.".

spdrun · #11 08-18-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

Cancer is the second leading killer of children behind accidents. Leukemia is the leading cancer in children. Environmental factors are also directly linked to Leukemia in children. Killing kids for profit is bad form in my opinion. Profit from their destruction in other ways for 50 years or so and then you can still profit from killing them, slow death. Win, win.

Since we've eliminated most childhood diseases, and childhood cancer is the only one that can't (usually) be vaccinated away or easily treated, what's left?

Real question is whether cancer rates among children have risen dramatically since 1985 or 1990, when HFCS became popular.

Skippy · #12 08-18-2013, 07:30 PM

Maybe:

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Over the past 20 years, there has been some increase in the incidence of children diagnosed with all forms of invasive cancer, from 11.5 cases per 100,000 children in 1975 to 14.8 per 100,000 children in 2004.

Oh wait, maybe not:

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Long-term trends in incidence for leukemias and brain tumors, the most common childhood cancers, show patterns that are somewhat different from the others. Incidence of childhood leukemias appeared to rise in the early 1980s, with rates increasing from 3.3 cases per 100,000 in 1975 to 4.6 cases per 100,000 in 1985. Rates in the succeeding years have shown no consistent upward or downward trend and have ranged from 3.7 to 4.9 cases per 100,000 (2).

I don't think it's the HFCS.

Source: Childhood Cancers - National Cancer Institute

cmac2012 · #13 08-19-2013, 02:24 AM

I don't think filling kids full of sugar and caffeine needs to be responsible for leukemia for it to be a problem for their health. Healthy teeth are strongly linked to lifelong health. Obesity at a young age can have deleterious effects (well duh).

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Originally Posted by aklim

I'm not a parent and so I am unaware of the sugar effect. I am however acutely aware of the fact that lunar new year is 15 days long. During which time, we would go to relatives houses and wish them a happy new year. The usual treats were all sugar laden. Based on your theory, every lunar new year, kids would be rioting if not worse. Obviously, after the new year ended, there would be leftovers of all kinds of sugar treats. Even if they all disappeared right after the 15 days, had it been the sugar, it would have resulted in massive rioting. Perhaps it is a weak excuse like "The devil made me do it" thing? Maybe the weak parents simply heard that sugar makes the kids act out and want to see it. Much like the placebo effect. So now, we have an excuse for the kids bad behavior that isn't liked to their failure as parents. "It's not my fault the kid did something stupid. It's the devil, I mean sugar that made him do it. I was a good parent but hey, who can help it when the kid acts up under the influence.".

I hear this sort of crap all the time. A lot of ingredients go into successful parenting. You're not a parent yet you don't hesitate to hold forth on 'failure as parent.' Everyone has limits on their energy, patience, etc. Add a few negative ingredients, and the line between success and failure can become more dicey.

If you can find the courage, the discipline - whatever - to abstain from all sugar and caffeine for a few months - and then go back into those things full hog, you might begin to have an inkling of the powerful behavior modification qualities of those substances.

I don't think I'm going to be successful in some campaign to rid the world of such things, or to force McDs to sell herb tea and put 10% of the current rate of sugar into their sweet offerings. Nonetheless, I am free to observe that they are whores of the first order for plying children with the equivalent of cocaine for fun and profit. F*** the peabrains, they will have their reward.

Air&Road · #14 08-19-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I'm not a parent and so I am unaware of the sugar effect. I am however acutely aware of the fact that lunar new year is 15 days long. During which time, we would go to relatives houses and wish them a happy new year. The usual treats were all sugar laden. Based on your theory, every lunar new year, kids would be rioting if not worse. Obviously, after the new year ended, there would be leftovers of all kinds of sugar treats. Even if they all disappeared right after the 15 days, had it been the sugar, it would have resulted in massive rioting. Perhaps it is a weak excuse like "The devil made me do it" thing? Maybe the weak parents simply heard that sugar makes the kids act out and want to see it. Much like the placebo effect. So now, we have an excuse for the kids bad behavior that isn't liked to their failure as parents. "It's not my fault the kid did something stupid. It's the devil, I mean sugar that made him do it. I was a good parent but hey, who can help it when the kid acts up under the influence.".

My thoughts on this seem to be different than yours. The fact that the kids get amped up on sugar, to me means that you don't let them have it in excess. A light dessert after a healthy meal is IT.

A parent that doesn't have the word NO in their vocabulary and doesn't use it OFTEN, is not being a responsible parent. It seems that too many parents forget who the adult is.

elchivito · #15 08-19-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I don't think filling kids full of sugar and caffeine needs to be responsible for leukemia for it to be a problem for their health. Healthy teeth are strongly linked to lifelong health. Obesity at a young age can have deleterious effects (well duh).

I hear this sort of crap all the time. A lot of ingredients go into successful parenting. You're not a parent yet you don't hesitate to hold forth on 'failure as parent.' Everyone has limits on their energy, patience, etc. Add a few negative ingredients, and the line between success and failure can become more dicey.

If you can find the courage, the discipline - whatever - to abstain from all sugar and caffeine for a few months - and then go back into those things full hog, you might begin to have an inkling of the powerful behavior modification qualities of those substances.

I don't think I'm going to be successful in some campaign to rid the world of such things, or to force McDs to sell herb tea and put 10% of the current rate of sugar into their sweet offerings. Nonetheless, I am free to observe that they are whores of the first order for plying children with the equivalent of cocaine for fun and profit. F*** the peabrains, they will have their reward.

I am clapping here. BRAVO!

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