ethanol is brown

Making fuel out of a food source is evil.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

Ethanol is the Devil's brew.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

Remember that the next time you chow down on a MacDonald's Big Mac "hamburger" and force your body to do that.
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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

Bassackward as making a fertilizer out of a fuel to grow more corn to produce a fuel.

Hemp seed is a fairly decent source of fuel and does not drain the land of vital nutrients like most other crop fuels...not to mention, hemp plastic is a nice alternative also.

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I always wondered why not use the culls (you know, undesired fruit with blemishes) to make ethanol. I mean, I'm pretty sure it would work a lot better than corn, and the culls just get dumped on the ground anyway so it would cost less as well

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1982 300D Turbodiesel, daily driver. Mods so far: Fram 8038 paper filter, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 (front) rotors/calipers, boost turned up to 12lbs, non-egr manifolds, water/methanol injection, 4-speed manual
1980 300SD Turbodiesel, project car, nearly ready to hit the street

1974 240D, New paint

Can't remember the last time I had a Big Mac.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

Now that makes sense.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

Ethanol sounded sorta nice on paper at first but it quickly became obvious that is was a huge false promise. There is plenty of blame to go around - Bush was big on it also - but I'll agree that Obama doesn't get it.

The line from an older Midwest farmer sorta sums it up: "Looks like we're putting the last 8 inches of topsoil into the gastank."

*EDIT* Just finished reading the article. Holy crap, it's worse than I realized. What a disaster of a boondoggle.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Hemp has some promise but I'm not sure any bio-fuel is that great of an idea. Sugar cane maybe, not sure. One thing scary about corn is the likelihood that they're using groundwater for most of it. Not sure but I'm guessing sugar cane in Brazil anyway is largely rain supported. ** Just searched (why guess, God gave us Google) and THEY say that the bulk of Brazil's sugar cane is grown with rainwater.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Mail fee birth control to every woman on the planet.

when huge subsidies were put in place by Bush I regarded them as political payback for his support in the farm belt. Why they are still in place baffles me except that Obama does not want to do anything that would drag the economy, but currently farmers are cutting down trees and burning them creating runoff and water purity issues in wells and good farmland is around 10K an acre so a little drag there could not seem to hurt too much to me.

Mainly it is financially and energywise inefficient and harmful to the environment....more so most probably than oil based fuels.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Ethanol is brown? The Lagunitas Maximus IPA I'm drinking right now is more of an amber color. Using it as a motor fuel does have some issues. I'm more partial to biodiesel myself. The Benz gets B20 most of the time. The bike I'd like to run on straight petrol, but it's quite hard to find non-ethanol petrol around here.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

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Better read up before posting again gentlemen...