man, how pissed would you be??

Yahoo!

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Ben
1987 190d 2.5Turbo

I thought that it was a classic or 90s Camaro. Then I saw that it was one of the new bloated, faux-retro GM creations, and I thought "good riddance."

the new ones just aren't as 'honest'.

The car that comes to mind is the Honda S2000. they loudly advertise some ridiculous power rating (250hp)coming from 4 cylinders. woohoo..

but what they don't show is how they get to 250hp.

Remember that HP=torque x rpm / 5252

the redline of the car is really high (10,000 rpm maybe) to make up for the low torque of a 4 cylinder.

Makes for good marketing I suppose. I just think it is dishonest because it will feel like a much slower car compared to a V8 that produces the same HP.

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Ben
1987 190d 2.5Turbo

The honda is not dishonest, just different from most cars in the way it delivers power. The 9500 rpm redline was a plus and well advertised to potential buyers. To a potential buyer of an s2000 its a plus not a minus.

Torque from a four cylinder can be better than from a v12 because of less friction loss....hence ferrari racing cars of the fifties sometimes has four or six cylinder engines while other models, some road cars had v12's. Ferrari even bench tested a two liter one or two cylinder...it made a lot of power but destroyed their bench....

You want torque, getta vette!

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I'm not talking about HP delivery. I'm talking about them being ugly and bloated. More barges than sporty cars. And they try too hard to be retro.

I like the 2005ish GTO far better. Great powertrain, suspension, etc in a modern, understated body. Sadly, Americans have gone for overstyled pap, ever since tailfins got big in the 50s, so it didn't sell.

is that the car that gets them wet?

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Ben
1987 190d 2.5Turbo

No, you're thinking of whatever car I'm driving when I go by...

MV

the 09 -current camaro is a cartoon caracture of a real one

Ding-ding-ding! You said it best!

BTW, im not a 9 guy.

Back in 69 I was working at a Chevy dealership which got one of the first 427 Camaros. That thing probably went thru 2 sets of tires before it ever left the lot in a buyer's hands. Everyone and their brother in the dealership wanted to drive it and see what it could do. Every time someone got in it there was a cloud of rubber smoke as it left the lot.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

The earliest ( and least well known) and also the speed record holder until the 2002 earnheart ss was the 67 dana 427.

Dana 427 Camaro

http://www.thechevroletcamaro.com/dana.htm

Nothing terribly special about the car...
Guy should have had his insurance buy him a new one just like the old one, and then subrogate with the dealer's insurance.
Generally speaking, in such cases your insurance company will be very helpful and will ensure that you are happy with the outcome, then put the screws to the other side...

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 pricing announced, costs more than a Corvette - WorldCarFans.com

If all I wanted was torque, probably a big pickup truck with a huge diesel engine would be a better choice, like a Dodge Cummins, Ford Powerstroke or a Chevy Duramax.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)