[QUOTE=Idle;3284257]The Chairman took it a little further and exterminated some 70 million of his countrymen who didn't want to play ball.

[QUOTE=Dudesky;3284325]Of course he did, but you might notice he did not tell anyone he was planning on doing this.

And before he could he had to have total power, and to get that he followed the plans laid out by his Soviet sponsors.

Those that think Al-Queta has anything different in mind for them should pick up a history book and read about this era.

But Mao appealed to the masses greed in that he said he could give them something they had never had. The fact that he could never deliver on this promise didn't keep him from making it. Al-Queta says they will restore the Caliphate; why let facts get in the way of taking over the locals?

No trying to maintain the status quo by changing nothing will only continue what is. Actually intensify it. Changing some things that are reasonable grievences of theirs would or should generally reduce it or stop it.

Try this on for size. When I was young it was told (propaganda)that the oil royalties from the large oil companies where shared with the general population of Saudi Arabia. They were all basically rich was the pitch. It turned out this was not true or an outright lie. The oil companies paid only the royal family and they do not share unless threatened.

A year or so ago for the first time to my knowledge. I think the royal family issued a 50k cheque to each poor member of their population as their selfishness issue at last was getting dangerous for them. The royal family and relatives plus extended families basically have endless wealth and a large percentage of the population basically nothing. A higher royalty would have had to be paid otherwise by the oil companies. Ben Laden Came from a fairly well off Saudi Arabian family and in my opinion had too large of a dose of what he saw. There is no other reasonable conclusion I suspect for his motivation. The 9/11 thing could have been prevented and possibly the ensuing consequences.

Americans should think about why they are disliked and the principal and participants for 9/11 that where all Saudi Arabians.. Until problems like this are addressed properly there will be unrest. People cannot wait forever for fair solutions.

For example currently every national citizen of Norway is a millionaire on paper from oil profits. The government will not distribute any of that wealth. At some point there will be some form of blowup. Hopefully it will remain internally and should. Plus it may not involve violence unless other forms do not work. Why not a partial distribution? Is greed without limits today. Sure save a portion for a rainy day fund but basically have to save all of it?

Modern cheap communication worldwide tends to mean that unfair situations no longer are isolated. Propaganda is used to contain them in many ways but is losing its effectiveness at an ever increasing rate.

For example as individuals we have no hard feelings. If I start to unreasonably not pay you properly for something of established value or you recieve no direct benefit from me doing so. At some point animosity will occur.

Greed is a two edged sword. Not smart business especially internationally. Now are we are involved in police type actions again for bad greedy self centered corporate practices? Besides overpaying them perhaps we need more ethical corporate leaders in our corporations for a start. Greedy practices should not be the benchmark for them. Creating the need for very dangerous employment in the military is not an upside either. More a somewhat avoidable sickness. We canadians I notice are being caught out a little more often in some of our international practices.

I wonder how they feel about people who think their lives are worthless.

UBL
 

Or, you can take at face value what he himself said in his own words (video tape and transcript exist/no secret) that it was about what the Israelis do to the Palestinians and that the US supports Israel.

IMO
 

IMO Identify Terrorist, if possible capture, put them on trial, if convicted (no discretion) kill them instantly, Thermite the carcase.

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Russia has interesting ideas on how to deal with Terrorist.

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This.

Yes.

Also, we (the USA) violated some sort of religious proscription concerning infidels living in KSA.

All of this is well documented in the 9/11 Report, which everybody seems to earnestly avoid reading in order to support whatever preconceived notions fit their own personal views.

Just the American support of Israel enough reason totally? I realise it could be a signifigant factor in his motivation. Would a government report cover all the bases or would it be very selective and self serving?

Certainly what is going on right now may have little to do with Israel. North America has systematically backed many oppressive regimes. Even placing puppets in place where they could historically.

Once the USA Supported Israel they were never going to have real Friends in the Muslim World.

So as long a Israel exist the USA is going to get blamed for Israel’s existence.

The attacks on the USA real or threatened have no positive effect on any sort of fair solution. The attacks are merely for the Muslim Masses who think that drawing some Blood makes them more Powerful as they have a culture where revenge is prominent and important.

I say that because if the Muslims had real Power Israel would have been taken over by them.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an invention of the West and the original King was intelligent in picking the West over the Soviet Union and has prospered doing business with the West.

Since the Saudi's no longer need to worry about the Soviet Uninon they have increased their support against the West and being extremely wealthy it is easy for them to provide Money to that end.

So what is fair. The whole area of the Middle East at the end of WWII was either still a Colony of one of the Western Powers a large portion of which was a "War Prize" gained from the Ottoman Empire.

That left the West to do what ever they felt like it with the Territories.

So at what point of History does the unfairness start and how on earth could there be compensation for any past unfairness.

Read it and come to your own conclusion based on having read it.

This is entirely true.
US Business interests and the US Government preferred some Dictator because it was easier to influence one Person then it would be to influence a whole elected Parliament or other Government body to promote US Business or Government interests.

The above was a replacement for European type Colonialism that the USA was competing with when the Europeans still had Colonies and later the support of Dictators became important weapons to limit the Spread of Communism. Under Communism US Business interests would have been confiscated and there would have been an added Military threat to the surrounding Countries as the Communist always were active in trying to spread Communism.

However, now that seems to have changed and the US is trying to promote some sort of Democracy (something we are not used to doing) in other Countries.

The People in the Countries like Iraq and Afghanistan seem enthusiastic to vote for their own Government representatives but they are still stuck with their past Culture where the People got there through violence.
This means that no matter who wins an Election some of the dissatisfied People are going to commit acts of Violence to the extent they might Kill a the Elected Person or Family.
They also cannot get over their Tribalism.

One of the different cultural aspects we are dealing with is that as an example few People in the USA after WWII hate the Germans or Japanese grief those Countries caused during WWII; and few Pople in the USA would now activly promote and act of violence against Citizens of either Country.

And if someone or a group did promote violence against Citizens of German or Japan the Government would try to stop them. The Muslims Governments or Individuals are not trying to stop other Muslims from committing terrorist acts and that will eventually bring Westren Troops to their Countries.

I will forgive you for having completely not understood that UBL made that statement after and in response to - correctively- the 911 report he pissed on. Preconceive that notion all you want :D

I wish you had written that in your native tongue.