Is it an issue if people can and are euthanized without their expressed and informed consent given of their own free will absent the undue interference and influence of others?

Yes it is. That would be murder. Do you have an example?

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Would a single example satisfy?

Half of Belgium's euthanasia nurses admit to killing without consent | Mail Online

Background about Euthanasia in The Netherlands | Patients Rights Council

"The present paper provides evidence that these laws and safeguards are regularly ignored and transgressed in all the jurisdictions and that transgressions are not prosecuted."

Legalizing euthanasia or assisted suicide: the illusion of safeguards and controls | Pereira | Current Oncology

How much pain and suffering should I put my dog thru because I don't want to put it out of it's misery and be upset myself. Same thing.

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I'm sorry. What's your point?

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Ok, their system has a major issue. As long as the person consents though what's the issue?

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Who defines what constitutes "consent"?

If a family all convince Grandma that she'd be better off dead so that they split up and enjoy her estate, did she "consent" or was she coerced under duress?

If the ACA redirects resources from palative care to HIV/AIDS treatment, and the elderly who would likely make use of palative care are communicated to and understand that the palative care is under staffed, under resourced and generally untenable are the willingly consenting or are they being courted by pro euthanasia proponents with a financial interest in hurrying along their timely demise?

In the Netherlands dementia and Alzheimer patients are allowed to "consent" despite their have already been determined to be mentally incompetent!

If you look at only the existing real world data it suggests very, very clearly that the original "patients rights" rational is only the nose of a very very dangerous camel being let into the tent.

I suppose they could do it the way they have been and just drag out the bureaucratic process until treatment is no longer needed-

I think pain and suffering is way under rated. More people should be forced to experience it against their will.

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^^^^ YOU would K I L L him? ^^^^

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I have put down several dogs of my own that are suffering with no hope of getting better.

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Hawking would not have been identified as a severely deformed infant because he was not one. He was an athlete in college and began his physical decline in his late 20s IINM.

I didn't say it was a pleasant topic, but getting all heroic with 'we can save everyone!' is perhaps not prudent.

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I am unclear. Is this a moral issue, or a financial one?
I began to see the trend developing back in the 60s. With the demise of a cultural morality, the rise of social Darwinism, and the subjective, "if it feels good, do it" mentality, we began to view all issues through the lens of cost. First was abortion when the arguments were about the cost to society of allowing these children to be born. Now that we seem to have accepted that, its on to the next step. It used to be almost universally thought that God, alone has the power over life and death. Now that we have shaken off that idea, it is we who want that power. Now we can kill off the elderly and get our hands on their money--whoppeee. We can also kill off those who take too much of our time, or are inconvenient to our selfish desires.
I cannot see this as a good.

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As to cost, it doesn't matter what the goal is if you cannot afford it or financially justify it.

It was also thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth.

So what is my motivation in terminating my dog when it is dying from inoperable cancer?

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