Just my experience and thoughts.

In one operation it was right in the neck of the bladder area. I could actually see the growth just before the scope entered the bladder. For almost a month the scab or scabs would wash off the area. Of course bleeding resulted. Subsiding until the next episode. Perhaps every five days this occurred. Then after almost a month of this. I was sitting with the wife having breakfast.

When it occurred to me I had not relieved myself after getting up. This for me as well as most is fairly normal in my opinion. Thinking little of this until the discomfort started. Then it was pretty obvious a scab had broken away and was blocking the outlet in all probability. So like yourself off I went to get a catheter.

Anyways my though was since this had never been an issue with earlier operations. The location possibly was far more liable to wash off. Since the urine flow is faster from that point down and also might include the neck or outlet area of the bladder. Like a small pipe out of a larger vessel under some pressure. Flow erosion of scabbing or of any weak object in the pipe is to be expected.

If I had to go through that again. After the catheter is removed I would not wait until I felt I really had to urinate. I would go dribble periodically instead. If possible. Resulting in hopefully a less aggressive urine flow past the wound area.

I have no ideal really if this would have helped in retrospect. On the other hand it might have helped. In my case some of the bleed offs where pretty heavy. In one particular one I thought a very large portion of the scab might have washed off.

I do not think this is really unusual. What is transpiring is after the scab is washed off there remains a constantly reducing area of unhealed surface. It reforms a smaller scab each time. Each case will be different of course.

My suggestion to not wait until pressure builds up in the bladder is something I would try to engage. If I had to deal with a situation like the one I had again. I have had three operations that pathology claims where not cancer in that area since 2013. The one that year was a resurgence of the bladder cancer. Originally dealt with about 19 years ago.

What has become totally clear to me over the years. After each procedure the recovery from it is never quite the same. Of course during all the periodic check ups there has never been any after effects from them.

A friend of mine who just turned 70 had elephant trunk accessed reduction surgery about 6 months ago, as in cutting tissue away. He says he couldn't be happier, he pisses like a racehorse and gets good lead in the pencil. He mentioned that one fringe binny is they have actual prostate tissue to examine for cancer, and he came up clean on that. I gather testing for prostate cancer is not easy and is invasive. May has well take advantage of the invasiveness of surgery.

Not ready for it yet. I'm nearing 67 and have been on Tamsulosin for a few months. It's tolerable, not ideal. My thought is to wait as long as possible. The surgery is evolving, no surprise there. Same with knees. If I can hold out for 4 or 5 more years, might be worth waiting.

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A clot blocked the catheter yesterday. They got that blown out and I passed about ten clots varying in size. The doc was here a while ago and is going to try stopping the irrigation and seeing if I can get by without it. So far so good. Maybe going home today?


Carl, the knee partial replacement like I had is very satisfactory and the last one was out patient. I have excellent movement too.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

The doc came and looked and said they'll remove the cath today and keep me around another night in case I get stopped up again with a clot. I'll be glad to get that thing out of there!

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

So I just passed water for the first time since the cath removal.


Wooo Hoooooo!

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Got a good night sleep in my own bed last night!

Woo Hooooo!

Its warm here today too so I may get my STudebaker out of the trialer and put it back in the garage.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Consider limiting activity for a few days. For example I was told no signifigant lifting. If it made or makes a differance is beyond my knowledge level. Superficially it does not make a lot of sense.


I had scabbing break away for perhaps six times over a month with that one time episode. Or it was a very heavy clot. Only jammed up the plumbing once.


The very last time they did a procedure. There was a trace of blood in the urine pretty much constantly for about 7-9 days I remember.

Thanks Barry!

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Ouch ~ as I inch ever closer to being in the same boat, these stories scare me.....

OTOH, as I was sitting on the edge of my bed getting dressed after my shower, I was wondering how long it's been since I actually slept in my own damn bed

The recliner is my new home it seems, I have sheet on it and so on, change weekly, sooner in Summer .

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Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Do not get over apprehensive. Every case will be a little different. Yet most will fall within certain reasonably predictable boundries or parameters.

In my case pain was not an issue. Perhaps a mite sore with some of the proceedures. Yet nothing really. No pain killers where ever remotely needed. Plus you are not dealing with cancer.

I find you have to attempt to stay on the high ground in life mentally as much as possible. As hard as that may be sometimes. It can always be far worse.

Remembering that not that long ago there where not the vastly simplified procedures that are available today. Compared to what previously existed. In my case if I had been born twenty five or so years earlier I would have already been planted years ago.

Most of the issues being dealt with on this thread by members getting on in years. Are the bread and butter of uroligists. It consists of a very high volume of their practices.

I appreciate the upbeat consideration .

I'm supposed to have died a few times already but I'm still alive & kicking, I just hear the endless stories about passing kidney stones and other fun things .

I agree ~ mental attitude has much to do with good health .

Laughter being the best Medicine as it were .

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1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Kidney stones are very painful I hear....bladder stones not at all. Thanks Barry for the reminder to keep positive!

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I never have passed a kidney stone either. I do not want this on my bucket list . Unfortunatly an MRI indicated I have one lurking in there.

I of course do not believe everything I hear. Yet I believe the reports of the pain involved from others. So I tend to believe kidney stones can really get your attention. When they are in transit.

Expressions like I would not wish this on others come to mind. When you hear expressions like that used. It at least got my attention.

I’ve had kidney stones. If you’re lucky, lithotripsy pulverizes them and there’s no problem passing the debris. But if they’re only blasted into chunks or if they pass whole, the pain is memorable. Like having a tooth drilled without an aesthetic, but the nerve goes from the middle of your back to your gubbins. You will feel every mm of their journey.

I've never had to experience that.

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