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Old 03-09-2014, 01:51 PM
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I was told that the rifle was a gift to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) for all of his work in the Senate that led to blocking much of what Obama wanted to do during his first term. Coburn is very ill; so ill that he is leaving the Senate two years before his term is up so this may be his last CPAC.

His health condition is no secret here in Oklahoma and he has been very open about it.

I would bet the rifle will wind up in a museum somewhere, perhaps in the OK capitol building.
Yes, but the Senator has been playing the "C" card for somewhat dubious political points, nonetheless.

We asked for the name of Coburn's cancer specialist, to determine whether the oncologist was in the network of any exchange health plan available to Coburn as a federal employee. We asked which exchange plan Coburn joined and what his premium is. We asked whether, as a 65-year-old, he has enrolled in Medicare, and if so, whether the same doctor is available under that program. (And if he has not joined Medicare, we asked, why not?) If we ever get any answers, we'll let you know.

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Old 03-09-2014, 02:17 PM
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Yes, but the Senator has been playing the "C" card for somewhat dubious political points, nonetheless.

We asked for the name of Coburn's cancer specialist, to determine whether the oncologist was in the network of any exchange health plan available to Coburn as a federal employee. We asked which exchange plan Coburn joined and what his premium is. We asked whether, as a 65-year-old, he has enrolled in Medicare, and if so, whether the same doctor is available under that program. (And if he has not joined Medicare, we asked, why not?) If we ever get any answers, we'll let you know.

The guy has cancer and they still play dirty. Says a lot about the liberal mindset.
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The guy has cancer and they still play dirty. Says a lot about the liberal mindset.
Or... the guy lies, misrepresents and politicizes his cancer in order to further an agenda....
Says a lot about the conservative mindset.
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The guy has cancer and they still play dirty. Says a lot about the liberal mindset.
Dirty? What's dirty? There is an excellent chance that he lied about the effect Obamacare has on his healthcare. Are reporters supposed to ignore the issue?
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Find the facts and THEN report it. Mudslinging a cancer victim is dirty.

Playing the C card? Really?
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Playing the C card? Really?
I know... what a douche...
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Find the facts and THEN report it. Mudslinging a cancer victim is dirty.

Playing the C card? Really?
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Find the facts and THEN report it. Mudslinging a cancer victim is dirty....
His claim is not plausible and yet the anti-Obamacare media are running with it as though it were a fact. Is the rest of the media supposed to just sit back and let that happen? The LA Times article presents the facts available to it and they seem to establish that the Senator lied. If the article is incorrect, it is within the Senator's power to clear up the misunderstanding. Why is he withholding the relevant facts?
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No, no, no...you've got it wrong, Larry. One MUST have ideologies that fall in line with the TEA party movement AND disagree with a black person to be racist. Remember...Progressive Liberals want to help everyone get along, for the benefit of everyone.

Looks like we're going to have to send you back to re-education camp, Larry...
I would think that you are being facetious in regards to the comment about Progressive Liberals wanting to help everyone get along. They are the most intolerant to others that may have a different outlook on any subject. The last thing that a Lib wants to do is get along with a conservative, and would go to any measure to eliminate them all. All you have to do is follow a few of these threads to see that.
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His claim is not plausible and yet the anti-Obamacare media are running with it as though it were a fact. Is the rest of the media supposed to just sit back and let that happen? The LA Times article presents the facts available to it and they seem to establish that the Senator lied. If the article is incorrect, it is within the Senator's power to clear up the misunderstanding. Why is he withholding the relevant facts?
It sounds like you are in the same camp as H Reid in that those instances of negative effects on many from O-care are all false stories or lies. If that plan is so great than why are there so many delays being carved out (until after the next two election cycles).
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It sounds like you are in the same camp as H Reid in that those instances of negative effects on many from O-care are all false stories or lies. If that plan is so great than why are there so many delays being carved out (until after the next two election cycles).
Is that what it sounds like to you? Even though I never said or wrote anything of the kind? Reid's comment was nonsense.

It needs these delays because legislation of that magnitude generally does require adjustments and because the GOP is doing everything it can to sure that the ACA provides no benefit to Americans.
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Yes, but the Senator has been playing the "C" card for somewhat dubious political points, nonetheless.

We asked for the name of Coburn's cancer specialist, to determine whether the oncologist was in the network of any exchange health plan available to Coburn as a federal employee. We asked which exchange plan Coburn joined and what his premium is. We asked whether, as a 65-year-old, he has enrolled in Medicare, and if so, whether the same doctor is available under that program. (And if he has not joined Medicare, we asked, why not?) If we ever get any answers, we'll let you know.
I'm getting my info from people that know him. Coburn is quite wealthy, so insurance of any kind and if he has it or not is really of little concern to him.
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His claim is not plausible and yet the anti-Obamacare media are running with it as though it were a fact. Is the rest of the media supposed to just sit back and let that happen? The LA Times article presents the facts available to it and they seem to establish that the Senator lied. If the article is incorrect, it is within the Senator's power to clear up the misunderstanding. Why is he withholding the relevant facts?
Coburn lie? There's no question about that if it suits his purpose. His ethics are basically if you have money you can do no wrong and if you don't then really, who cares if you live or die?

Coburn has been wealthy all of his life. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and if he needs to pull a few million from his back pocket to pay for medical bills he would never miss the money.

Coburn is for Coburn and always has been. If he can spread a little confusion about anything Obama, or any Democrat, is doing then that would give him great joy in his declining years.
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Is that what it sounds like to you? Even though I never said or wrote anything of the kind? Reid's comment was nonsense.

It needs these delays because legislation of that magnitude generally does require adjustments and because the GOP is doing everything it can to sure that the ACA provides no benefit to Americans.
I was just going by your post #49 here. Please explain why something so awesome should be delayed, and is it just a coincidence that the delays happen to run out after the next presidential election.

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