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Air&Road 03-31-2014 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3309873)
Mass. requires nothing. Just walk in, give your name & address, and they cross it off the list and give you ballot. No ID, no nothing.
Scary stuff.

MS Fowler 03-31-2014 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3310000)
Scary stuff.
Maryland is the same, with the added bonus that if your name is not on the roles you may vote a provisional ballot....

Air&Road 03-31-2014 09:18 PM
Anyone who doesn't see that adequate ID adds legitimacy is asleep at the wheel.

cmbdiesel 03-31-2014 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 3309980)
Anyone who believes THEIR party is blameless and it's all the other party's fault, is living in a polarized fantasy world.
I blame it on the sniveling Canadians.... or is that sniffling...??:D

cmbdiesel 03-31-2014 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3309999)
If we are going to discuss fair elections, let me state my opposition to the rush to electronic voting machines. I see much mischief afoot. The excuse that such machines make for a quicker count is unimportant, especially when compared to an accurate count.

Uncle Joe (Stalin) said it best--I don't care WHO votes, I only care who COUNTS the votes.
If it were up to me, I'd do away with the electronic machines entirely.

What kind of screwed up system has a paper data base and electronic voting machines....
Seems backwards to me.

INSIDIOUS 03-31-2014 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3310003)
Anyone who doesn't see that adequate ID adds legitimacy is asleep at the wheel.
Any one who doesn't 'see' (or understand/admit) that more stringent/restrictive voter requirements directly correlate to disproportionately affecting he poorer adversely - to advantage the agenda of the wealthy, is asleep in the brain.

cmbdiesel 03-31-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3310003)
Anyone who doesn't see that adequate ID adds legitimacy is asleep at the wheel.
For sake of argument, even it it doesn't have any impact of the outcome of any elections, it will go towards improving people's perception of fairness and legitimacy, which may get more people involved.
That's a good thing.

I just can't abide the R side trying to enact voter suppression laws and calling them voter ID laws.

Dudesky 03-31-2014 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3310012)
Any one who doesn't 'see' (or understand/admit) that more stringent/restrictive voter requirements directly correlate to disproportionately affecting he poorer adversely - to advantage the agenda of the wealthy, is asleep in the brain.
The disproportionately affected poor have no problem popping ID for free government stuff.....but ask for ID to vote......:eek:

cmbdiesel 03-31-2014 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3310024)
The disproportionately affected poor have no problem popping ID for free government stuff.....but ask for ID to vote......:eek:
Maybe put aside the ID issue and address the topic of the OP.

What's your take on the rash of new laws which seek to restrict early voting?

INSIDIOUS 03-31-2014 09:53 PM
Herbert, pay attention!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3310024)
The disproportionately affected poor have no problem popping ID for free government stuff.....but ask for ID to vote......:eek:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/352927-new-g-o-p-bid-limit-voting-swing-states-post3309127.html#post3309127

John Galt 03-31-2014 10:36 PM
The amount of voter fraud in the last two presidential elections was inexcusable, especially for a country that pretends to be a democracy. Laws to require voter ID in federal elections will go a long way to solving that problem. America should adopt the policy of inked fingers that other countries with that much voter fraud are using. The other issues are inconsequential by comparison. A qualified voter who wants to vote will find a way. If they're too lazy to do that, then perhaps they're not actually qualified to vote.

INSIDIOUS 03-31-2014 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 3310061)
The amount of voter fraud in the last two presidential elections was inexcusable, especially for a country that pretends to be a democracy. Laws to require voter ID in federal elections will go a long way to solving that problem. America should adopt the policy of inked fingers that other countries with that much voter fraud are using. The other issues are inconsequential by comparison. A qualified voter who wants to vote will find a way. If they're too lazy to do that, then perhaps they're not actually qualified to vote.
Ah, the laziness clause in the constitution regards voter eligibility. How did we all miss that? Got a link? So do tell, can you link us up with facts regards all this "amount of voter fraud in the last two presidential elections was inexcusable' or are you just blowing hard again?

davidmash 03-31-2014 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3310016)
For sake of argument, even it it doesn't have any impact of the outcome of any elections, it will go towards improving people's perception of fairness and legitimacy, which may get more people involved.
That's a good thing.

I just can't abide the R side trying to enact voter suppression laws and calling them voter ID laws.
How much money do we want to spend on appearances? Ten case of voter ID fraud over 10 years does not seem worth while.

davidmash 03-31-2014 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 3310061)
The amount of voter fraud in the last two presidential elections was inexcusable, especially for a country that pretends to be a democracy. Laws to require voter ID in federal elections will go a long way to solving that problem. America should adopt the policy of inked fingers that other countries with that much voter fraud are using. The other issues are inconsequential by comparison. A qualified voter who wants to vote will find a way. If they're too lazy to do that, then perhaps they're not actually qualified to vote.
You have any sources for all this voter ID fraud? I have only heard of 10 confirmed cases since 2000.

Botnst 04-01-2014 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3310089)
You have any sources for all this voter ID fraud? I have only heard of 10 confirmed cases since 2000.
If one doesn't check ID, how does one determine perpetration of fraud?


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