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Old 04-09-2014, 08:22 PM
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Now they probing the engineers - dam

Wonder if congress had known how GM was covering up the key detent shortness issue thing they would have still bailed them out because they were "too big to fail".

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Old 04-09-2014, 10:22 PM
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:54 AM
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You don't think that they would let an entire industry collapse because a few white-collar types probably covered up a design defect on an ignition switch?
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You don't think that they would let an entire industry collapse because a few white-collar types probably covered up a design defect on an ignition switch?
"Industry?" You mean "pit of union parasitism?" Which is the diametrical opposite of "industry."
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:51 AM
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What I find interesting is that some MB vehicles have the same problem and there has been no recall or campaign to resolve the issue. The dealers says “put less keys on the chain.”
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Old 04-10-2014, 12:49 PM
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"Industry?" You mean "pit of union parasitism?" Which is the diametrical opposite of "industry."
Yes, thanks. I wasn't having any luck with coming up with the right words on that one...
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The engineers were probably the only people trying to do something about the problem and management was telling them that they couldn't afford it.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:29 PM
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The engineers were probably the only people trying to do something about the problem and management was telling them that they couldn't afford it.
A change to the part was designed and implemented. Unfortunately, someone forgot to change the part number of the improved part, which made detection of a change more difficult, and allowed older, unimproved versions of this part to remain in dealership inventory.
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IMO, this whole issue is being blown way out of proportion by the MSM. IIRC, when the investigation started, it involved 12 or 13 fatalities, half of whom were drunk. Turning off the ignition should not cause a crash for any half-way competent driver, as you don't need power steering with a moving vehicle, and power brake systems, whether vacuum or hydraulic, have several reserve stops built in. Even if they didn't, you still have power assist from a rotating engine even if it's not producing power.

If this was such a serious problem, every time a driver ran out of gas, or had a flame-out for any number of reasons, such as running out of oil or a timing belt failure, it would result in a serious or fatal accident. That clearly is not the case.
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:15 PM
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The engineers were probably the only people trying to do something about the problem and management was telling them that they couldn't afford it.
That is what I figured. Probably over ridden by the accountants.

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