The lay out of some of the paper mills dates back to the horse and buggy days. I promise you that the turning and backing space requirements are well documented somewhere. I don't know where but I bet GD insurance companies know.

Use all of the space that is there to use was an answer I got when asking a driver how he makes it look so easy. He said that was truck driving 101. That was around thirty years ago when 53' trailers started being the norm, and I was told many times no one can put a 53' conventional there. Then watching other drivers the ones that had trouble always pulled the trailer just past the dock with another 30' to pull forward.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The street is about 21 to 22 feet curb to curb. My tow vehe is a F250 extended cab 4x4, it does not turn quickly. When I pull out of the driveway, I need to go all the way to the opposite curb, even without the trailer. Since my neighbors park on the street, they must move so I can have the full width of the street. The street is so narrow that the vunteer fire dept uses it for new drivers. If they can't negotiate the street , they can 't drive the fire truck. They have scratched a few over the years.

I've always mounted a hidden hitch under front bumper,makes backing easy.

Have you looked into using a trailer dolly or even a small lawn tractor with a trailer attachment to move the trailer?

It's about a 4500 pound 5th wheel. I doubt then even my fairly large garden tractor would be able go move it much.

Not an issue here, but I knew a co-worker's repo-man told him he could not have it or use it until a certain date. Again there is no magic answer but don't pigeon yourself into a corner without using all of the space that you have.

It doesn't take much room if you're really good. Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGlcxDObA8w

Guy should have just backed out.

Farmer trick. Those 4 wheel wagons with steering rack in the front are quite the trick. You just can't get the rear end of a tractor to do what you need, they all use hitch pin mounts on the front, and for good reason.

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