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MTI 06-10-2014 11:27 AM

VW's Theater PSA
 
Volkswagen - Eyes on the road - YouTube

If only one person in the audience learned from it, it was worth it.

spdrun 06-10-2014 11:34 AM

If I were paying for texts, this would result in a paroxysm of rage and a screen covered with popcorn and Coke for the duration of the movie. Yeah, I know the latter is more expensive than a 10-cent text, but it would be cathartic.

cmbdiesel 06-10-2014 11:37 AM

Location based broadcaster.....
How the heck does THAT work...??

Agreed that it might actually save a life or two.

tbomachines 06-10-2014 11:42 AM

It's called beacons. Some retailers use it, notably and most recently Starbucks, which used it to better organize their stores to foot traffic. They did not ask people for opt in though and it got a little dicey on the legal front. It's typically not user identifiable (unless you register) and this instance probably used wifi anyways to send a push message.


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spdrun 06-10-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341513)
It's called beacons. Some retailers use it, notably and most recently Starbucks, which used it to better organize their stores to foot traffic. They did not ask people for opt in though and it got a little dicey on the legal front. It's typically not user identifiable (unless you register) and this instance probably used wifi anyways to send a push message.

Why would a significant portion of people in a theatre be connected to WiFi?

tbomachines 06-10-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341516)
Why would a significant portion of people in a theatre be connected to WiFi?


Because phones often connect automatically....

It's not necessarily the case but that would have been one method. If they used a text message, vw would have had to pay for it.


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spdrun 06-10-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341520)
Because phones often connect automatically....

I've never seen a public WiFi (other than maybe in a very small private cafe) that didn't require some sort of authentication and overt action to connect to it. Either entering a password or clicking through a disclaimer page.

I'm also not sure how push messaging just because you're connected to a WiFi network would work. I'm guessing this was an implementation of Crapple's iBeacon which uses Bluetooth to spam and spy on users. Fortunately easily turned off by disabling Bluetooth.

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:06 PM

^ depends on settings and OS. if this ad is yur definition of apple spamming and spying on users then yes you are correct. However I think your foil hat would block most signals anyways.


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spdrun 06-10-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341536)
^ depends on settings and OS. if this ad is yur definition of apple spamming and spying on users then yes you are correct. However I think your foil hat would block most signals anyways.

No: I'm saying that iBeacon in general is spyware. Not using an iOS device also works :)

MTI 06-10-2014 12:30 PM

didn't appear to be only iPhones in that HK theater.

spdrun 06-10-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3341551)
didn't appear to be only iPhones in that HK theater.

Making it either (a) staged or (b) really effing creepy

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341549)
No: I'm saying that iBeacon in general is spyware. Not using an iOS device also works :)


Or android...


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spdrun 06-10-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341555)
Or android...

You can actually get vetted builds of Android like CyanogenMod that are less likely to contain nasties than a proprietary OS.

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341557)
You can actually get vetted builds of Android like CyanogenMod that are less likely to contain nasties than a proprietary OS.


Yeah you can jailbreak your iPhone too, I'm not sure what your point is -- obviously the vast majority of users do not have the tech knowledge to do this or simply don't care. Stock builds leave Bluetooth 4.0+ enabled.


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spdrun 06-10-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341559)
Yeah you can jailbreak your iPhone too, I'm not sure what your point is -- obviously the vast majority of users do not have the tech knowledge to do this or simply don't care. Stock builds leave Bluetooth 4.0+ enabled.

Most Android implementations don't turn BT back on when updated...

Apple Keeps Turning Bluetooth On When You Update Your iPhone - Forbes

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341562)
Most Android implementations don't turn BT back on when updated...

Apple Keeps Turning Bluetooth On When You Update Your iPhone - Forbes


If you jailbreak your iPhone you are not updating to iOS...


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spdrun 06-10-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3341567)
If you jailbreak your iPhone you are not updating to iOS...


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Meanwhile, with a stock implementation of Android, I can get most of the benefits of jailbreaking (sideloading, lack of heavy-handed stupidity) without rooting. Funny, that.

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:53 PM

I've certainly had my share of frustrations with apple, and I am not defending them, but android can be just as bad. Same game different players.


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tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341570)
Meanwhile, with a stock implementation of Android, I can get most of the benefits of jailbreaking (sideloading, lack of heavy-handed stupidity) without rooting. Funny, that.


...okay...many (I'd argue most) users do not utilize or desire that complexity.


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davidmash 06-10-2014 12:56 PM

It did not look staged to me. People all looked very natural. Could be staged but did not get that vibe from it.

Great commercial.

tbomachines 06-10-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3341574)
It did not look staged to me. People all looked very natural. Could be staged but did not get that vibe from it.



Great commercial.


Agreed.


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SwampYankee 06-10-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3341495)
Volkswagen - Eyes on the road - YouTube

If only one person in the audience learned from it, it was worth it.

Anyway...

The Mrs. texted me a link to that while I was driving into work yesterday. Ok, not while I was driving. Creative and hammers home the point pretty well.

cmbdiesel 06-10-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3341553)
Making it either (a) staged or (b) really effing creepy

I was thinking (B).....


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