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Skippy · #16 01-19-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Should I have gone with the "It's a bad law and therefore he should have gotten a slap on the wrist"? Or blame the cop for enforcing a "victimless crime" law?

That's pretty much my position. I'm of the opinion that many rural roads should be unrestricted (as in no speed limit), and speed limits in town are generally set too low. I also think jail time is inappropriate for any offense that doesn't involve personal injury, property damage/theft, or national security.

Now if you're speeding and you hit someone/something, that's a different matter.

aklim · #17 01-19-2015, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

I think they changed the limit for reckless to 15 over. It's 15 over or 80 mph whichever is LOWER, btw.

As to not knowing you're going 15 over, there are situations like a 50 mph limit dropping to 35 around a curve, otherwise known as a speed trap.

Granted, you'll probably be required to pay a fine (point of speed traps is revenue), but if the cop doesn't like your color, car, state of residence, whatever, reckless is an option.

Don't know if they changed it and when. All I know is now it is 20 over limit or 80. Like I said, you should know when you are doing 20 over or 80 so any issue is your inadequacy not the cop's, legislature, judge, cat, dog, etc. Currently, there is something said about changing the ceiling to 85.

I don't know about your GPS but mine has the speed limit and a red square to indicated when I am over. Besides it is YOUR duty to know where the speed limit is precisely. If that is too difficult, don't drive. It is MY job to know and watch for speed change signs. My failure is not their fault. If the sign was run down 10 mins ago, fair enough. I think I KNOW (may not necessarily obey) that the speed is more likely to drop when going into a curve or thru a populated area. My instructor years ago told me it was my responsibility to watch for speed changes, BTW.

Then don't give him the option by complying. Again, if that is too difficult, don't drive. Stop blaming someone else for your own mistakes with wild suppositions. What next? He might shoot you, put a gun with the serial numbers filed off in your hand and claim that you pulled a gun?

Sure, it's possible. Most anything is.

spdrun · #18 01-19-2015, 06:13 PM

I don't have a g.d.m.f. GPS and my phone is in flight mode when driving. As it should be.

aklim · #19 01-19-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy

That's pretty much my position. I'm of the opinion that many rural roads should be unrestricted (as in no speed limit), and speed limits in town are generally set too low. I also think jail time is inappropriate for any offense that doesn't involve personal injury, property damage/theft, or national security.

Now if you're speeding and you hit someone/something, that's a different matter.

So petition for a change of the law. If you can convince them that our vehicles are able to handle it (remember the broken down POSs on the road) AND the driver is able to, I'm good. Also must be able to handle the cost of repairs when the increased risk brings increased cost.

aklim · #20 01-19-2015, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

I don't have a g.d.m.f. GPS and my phone is in flight mode when driving.

As it should be.

Were you born blind or are your eyes in flight mode when driving too?

As it should be? By what law?

Skippy · #21 01-19-2015, 06:22 PM

I joined National Motorists Association and encourage others to do the same. Linky: National Motorists Association Website

I describe it as being like the NRA, only for people who like to speed. These are the people who helped make the national 55 mph limit go away. They also have a neat program for members whereby if you get a speeding ticket, fight it, and lose, they will pay the ticket.

They're a bit more moderate than I am about speed limits, since they favor an 85th percentile method, but that's still better than it's currently done on many many U.S. roads. Currently the big legislative push is against red light cameras and we're making progress.

engatwork · #22 01-19-2015, 06:31 PM

It is a state law in JawJa that they can not stop you for up to 10 over unless they see something else that is illegal. I typically will put the cruise on the speed limit +9 or 10 and let it ride.

aklim · #23 01-19-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy

They also have a neat program for members whereby if you get A speeding ticket, fight it, and lose, they will pay the ticket.

Once per membership year up to $300 and you must plead "Not Guilty" and go to trial. Not sure how much that will cost in time and money but I suspect it is around $100 to ask for a trial whether you win, lose or draw, as they say. So big emphasis on "A" speeding ticket. Frankly, I could give a rip about the ticket. I don't care if they add on a bigger ticket but take away the points. 12 in a year and you are suspended. 12 offenses a 5 year period and you are a Habitual Traffic Offender. HTO Suspension is 5 years. So even if they paid every one of your tickets (which they don't), you still lose.

JB3 · #24 01-19-2015, 08:52 PM

Interesting story, sounds like this harsh treatment really worked on the guy.

The problem with seemingly clear rural roads is you think you can do what you want and the road is clear, but around the corner is a guy on a tractor going 2mph crossing over or some kid is riding his bike, and thats the end. Hence the low set limit.

Personally, i have no problem with this punishment. I save my speeding for limited access highways. 93 in a 55 is pure stupidity. Even if the road is clear and you can do what you want, you are so far over the posted limit that you are in for a world of hurt if caught.

I once had a similar situation descending mountains in NH at night. Cop caught me doing 75 in a 50 and did some yelling, then handed over a 3 to 400 dollar speeding ticket. As he said i was very close to the misdmeaner limit in that area to make it reckless driving. Was a good scare

aklim · #25 01-19-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

Interesting story, sounds like this harsh treatment really worked on the guy.

The problem with seemingly clear rural roads is you think you can do what you want and the road is clear, but around the corner is a guy on a tractor going 2mph crossing over or some kid is riding his bike, and thats the end. Hence the low set limit.

Personally, i have no problem with this punishment. I save my speeding for limited access highways. 93 in a 55 is pure stupidity. Even if the road is clear and you can do what you want, you are so far over the posted limit that you are in for a world of hurt if caught.

I once had a similar situation descending mountains in NH at night. Cop caught me doing 75 in a 50 and did some yelling, then handed over a 3 to 400 dollar speeding ticket. As he said i was very close to the misdmeaner limit in that area to make it reckless driving. Was a good scare

As they say, nothing is illegal until you get caught. You wanna play, you must be willing to pay. Don't come whining about the price. I speed, I know the fine is $500 and as long as I am willing to pay, why not? I can't come complaining that I am down $500 because I wanted to speed, can I?

rocky raccoon · #26 01-19-2015, 09:24 PM

Screw you Yankee Bastids speeding through my state.

aklim · #27 01-19-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky raccoon

Screw you Yankee Bastids speeding through my state.

There is a Beaver Dam in WI too: Home / Beaver Dam, Wisconsin

I went looking for where all the beavers were but didn't see any. Much like Morehead, KY. Sad to say, it didn't live up to it's name. Didn't get any more or less in the 2 years I was there than other places.

kmaysob · #28 01-19-2015, 09:42 PM

Woah, spud hasn't mentioned that all pigs need to die yet. He must be sick. You feeling ok Spudy?

Skippy · #29 01-19-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

Interesting story, sounds like this harsh treatment really worked on the guy.

Worked at what?

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The problem with seemingly clear rural roads is you think you can do what you want and the road is clear, but around the corner is a guy on a tractor going 2mph crossing over or some kid is riding his bike, and thats the end. Hence the low set limit.

This is why you don't out drive your line of sight.

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Personally, i have no problem with this punishment. I save my speeding for limited access highways. 93 in a 55 is pure stupidity. Even if the road is clear and you can do what you want, you are so far over the posted limit that you are in for a world of hurt if caught.

I have a problem with this punishment. It simply isn't appropriate to jail someone just for driving fast. Speeding on limited access highways can be a great way to get caught. The local cops aren't real big on speed enforcement, but they will bust you on a freeway if you're going fast enough. In my area many of the rural two lanes are essentially unpatrolled. The speed limit doesn't mean anything if there's no one enforcing it. I don't know about your area, but in mine speed limits are set so low that 93 in a 55 can be relatively safe as long as you do it at the right time and don't get caught.

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I once had a similar situation descending mountains in NH at night. Cop caught me doing 75 in a 50 and did some yelling, then handed over a 3 to 400 dollar speeding ticket. As he said i was very close to the misdmeaner limit in that area to make it reckless driving. Was a good scare

Was 75 an unsafe speed for you to be traveling under the conditions? We have a road here called Spooner Grade with is inexplicably signed 50 mph. Most people go 70-75. Fortunately cops are seldom seen on that road.

spdrun · #30 01-19-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob

Woah, spud hasn't mentioned that all pigs need to die yet. He must be sick. You feeling ok Spudy?

Never wished "all" cops badly. Anyway, the cop in this instance was decent. I know that stretch of road well. 4-lane, semi-limited access, but with cross roads without traffic lights. Safe for maybe 70-75. The ticket was justified. Seems like the county has themselves a hangin' judge though. And the state has a problem with laws that enable judges like him.