To be perfectly honest,
Seeing the other thread posted here~~~~on THIS forum, Dosen't surprise me in the least.
first- im NOT saying the OP did not get a bad part from a seller, that said.

Americans are spoiled little *****es , thinking they are ENTITLED to sellers doing stuff at a loss for them.

Americans are spoiled little brats who have somehow come to BELIEVE they DONT have to save any money for the things they want.

Americans are spoiled little IDIOTS - mind controlled by idiots like the jeoff Bezos's of the world- telling them they DESERVE for someone else to pay for their shipping charges.

and worse, Americans have become perfectly at ease-embracing -that they are entitled to absolute CHEAP Chinese Crap, at the absolute rock bottom rate-and have absolutely NO problem with their dog eat dog, skinflint routine,,, IOW ~ the sellers of the internet ...
are nothing more than rented mules to abuse any way they wish.

The typical 2016 version of American "entrepreneurship" is competing with 120 other sellers- selling the exact same piece of garbage- out of that same container, that made its way across the pacific.
And the only way one could possibly make the sale is by groveling over the other mules, to offer the "free shipping"

so some spoiled Brat can do their Happy Dance with their laptop---like that STUPID wayfair.com commercial.

Somebody may lie to himself that he beat another seller,
The fact still remains -UPS, Fed-EX, the US mail, DONT ship a damn thing for free.

the peeps on this forum - turning that other thread ~into~about how to screw sellers on ebay, is exactly why they are in the situation they will stay in,
you'all think you are entitled to people doing whatever at a loss for you,, so you can cruse along the bottom........
Until you come to terms with the fact that stuff you want Costs Money-and services COSTS Money, you will always be in Pikerville.

Buyers on Ebay pretty much got everything set up the way they want.
(but ebay is even scamming buyers these days -like the e-check scam)

To my knowledge--there is NO insurance a buyer can get so they don't have to pay return shipping charges on something they aren't satisfied with, somebody posting that in the other thread-first I have ever heard of that.
What put an end to me selling on ebay is their blatant Stealing from sellers that they started --the" final value fee " on shipping rates.
that pretty much stacked the cards so far against the seller-its n longer feasible to make money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfKSwNi8BjE

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ebay-seller-fees-are-a-complete-rip-off-join-if-you-agree/142441785810003

Selling someting on ebay-- getting quotes, getting just the right boxes, crating the stuff properly so it arrives in undamaged condition, getting it up to the counter----and then having to cover the $ difference that the rate turns out to be-OVER what the quote was,
all this is the hardest part of ANY transaction.

But the mindless buyer wants it be ignorant of all this.

What makes it untolerable.... Ebay has decided that they are ENTITLED to STEAL -- I estimate %12 of that shipping charge with their SLIMY new fee.
To put it mildly--that quite a bit more than just OFFENSIVE.

You don't like free markets?

its ignoramus's and Idiots in them I have a problem with.
try selling something,
" " " " " " " big and bulky on ebay,
go do some dumpster diving for just the right box--to keep the shipping rate as low as possible for that buyer,
go thru the whole routine.
then at the end of the month--EXAMINE the invoice --in DETAIL at how they are gigging you.
then tell me about your POV then.

OK, but wouldn't your time be better spent freeing the people from religion and teaching them to think first?

got anything besides the usual spammbot one liners?

Can we assume that you sell stuff on ebay and are not happy about all the details?

...sure glad you aren't talking about me.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Im trying to understand this rant. I get the ebay has made it harder for sellers, but paying the return shipping fee is a problem?

I spent several years selling and shipping aftermarket industrial components, and you can bet when we made a mistake we instantly sent the customer a return shipping label for the component, and often rushed a replacement correct item to them next day air. And we are talking something that might weigh 100lbs and cost more to ship than what its worth in this situation. This is not new and its called good customer service and a good business practice.

Sometimes yes there are stupid customers, but for every silly customer, there are a dozen who appreciate being taken care of and recommend you to others

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exactly!

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I can't stomach the idea of paying shipping for a tire kicker. Not as described (legit) that is another matter - but I have seen so many horror stories ...

Its Ebay what do you expect? Its like complaining that craigslist is a den of scum bags and thieves.

Just don't do business with it anymore. I have not bought or sold anything on Ebay in a decade.

Ebay's heyday was a long time ago.

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As said above, just the cost of doing business on ebay. You either assume you will pay return shipping on a certain number of scumbags and their associated drama to make money with everyone else, and you are comfortable with it, OR you find another medium to make money.

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The thing is, shipping of some things is as much as or more than the item price, and taking a hit on those things is insane. You could lose a hundred dollars in one swell foop. How much would you have to sell to break even on that before you get the value of your stuff, let alone any profit? ebay is already the 'low price leader' in the garage sale world for many things that the risk on selling low cost but high shipping items is unreasonable. The place is liquidation central. I thought I saw somewhere that ebay pays return shipping in some cases. I had an interesting event a few years a go where a nimwit buyer complained but was way off base because he simply didn't understand things. My response to his case was simply to state the facts. He went ballistic and ebay jumped in and closed the case. ebay tells me I was right but they paid the buyer back out of their own pocket and told him to keep the item besides. And they made it sound like they were doing me a big favor for having not done anything wrong and having had to go through the annoyance, while the moron got the freebie. I couldn't believe that so I contacted the buyer and said I see the case is closed - what happened? He was pretty urinated off but didn't clear much up, so I don't know what the transaction looked like from his end. I suspect when a seller wins ebay might use that as an opportunity to imply something untrue. I don't think that guy got refunded, but I can't prove it.

I quit using ebay years ago for reasons like you state. Some A-hole hits buy it now with no intention of buying, im charged a fee and have to go through 2 weeks of nonsense to get the money back? No thanks.

Amazon is a far more pleasant place to sell items.

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