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Old 09-10-2016, 11:26 AM
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I think society has moved to fast.I've been in my neighborhood 16 years.Not one friend,no one visits or has dinner.People are on the move with their wants and needs,no one has time for a neighbor.What happen to small town america,where people got together.Your neighbors house burned,no insurance needed because the next day it was rebuilt by neighbors.
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:55 PM
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I think society has moved to fast.I've been in my neighborhood 16 years.Not one friend,no one visits or has dinner.People are on the move with their wants and needs,no one has time for a neighbor.What happen to small town america,where people got together.Your neighbors house burned,no insurance needed because the next day it was rebuilt by neighbors.
I tend to agree with much of what you have stated. I think perhaps its been a long time since neighbors would rebuild your home if it burns.

I think the Amish do that with barns, perhaps homes too, but not many neighborhoods do.

Wanna be Amish? I admire them in many ways but wouldn't wanna be one.
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Yes time seems to change all things. Last night I curled up with a book at the cottage about the social aspects of the Canadian maritimes where we live. Written by a local author. The changes have been massive in his long lifetime and he discusses them well.

One old custom that really got my attention. It was the custom to not knock on some ones door but just to walk in. The hospitality you got was automatic. This was well before my time here and new to me.

There was a sense of community that was lacking elsewhere to the same extent. So if a family moved to an area far away they usually returned. The higher wages there meant nothing to them. Quality of life wise especially here was more important.

Forty years later almost nothing is the same. That way of life in so many ways is gone. The central government poured money in to modernize everything since we arrived. Including importing all the new endless regulations.

To me it still is vastly superior to the city of Toronto I grew up in. The population numbers still remain about the same as when we arrived. As there has been zero immigration basically so far but it will come eventually unfortunately. Toronto is a hellhole now in comparison. People on a hamster wheel is what many of them appear as. Basically creating and living in a form of pressure disease.

There remain about two million people total in the four Canadian maritime provinces. In our area for all practical purposes there was no crime at all when we arrived and still very little today.

Leave your keys in your cars or go away without locking the front door for say a month or so. Everything will be the same when you return. One thing that is going to have an impact though is drugs where late entering the culture here but their use is increasing now.

We do lock our doors at night now because there were a few home invasions a few years back in the maritimes but not locally. Anyways they stopped happening pretty well.

The police are just too effective compared to the rest of Canada. Yet in the forty years here I have not gotten a traffic ticket other than a parking ticket once that I talked my way out of. If stopped speeding or whatever the custom usually has been to just give a warning. Absolutly no mercy is given to drinking drivers though.

Modern culture here means honesty in dealings as a general rule locally is in a state of decline as well. Again not as bad as the large Canadian cities but it is falling.

No chain stores or franchises existed locally other than car dealers. Wages were low generally but you could buy a decent usable house for a few thousand dollars. Or rent one for around twenty dollars a month.

Most important those forty years ago is the people overall where very friendly, happy and supported our new business right away. I see the continuing change as the years go by here will continue. It seems nobody has any time now to participate in the old ways.

I call much of the current situation the race to eternity without smelling the flowers along the way. It is not utopia by any stretch but again utopia probably does not exist anywhere.

The wife just called from the cottage. Told me I have to come out tonight as she has my pills. Forgot to leave them with me. Plus to bring a battery for her watch if I had one.

I found one so I will shortly leave with the dogs. We have decided to make the cottage our principal place of residence until the end of October this year. I stay home infrequently but was going to tonight.

We were all swimming in the ocean this morning and the water is still warm. The cottage is only 17 physical miles away yet it seems a total change in environment. Where I grew up the cottage of that size and quality would cost about a million dollars today and be a traffic ridden drive for at least 100 miles to get there. There is never any amount of traffic here other than some delays in the Canadian rip up the highways and repave them scenario in the summertime.

An acre lot with a three bedroom two washrooms and looking right out over the ocean through the 6x8 ft glass windows. The ceiling rises from 12 to 19 feet as I had this feeling years ago the wife may want to be out there a lot. I did not want her or myself for that matter to feel claustrophobic.

I had even heard about women seeing stars. So I put skylights in the two upper loft bedrooms. I guess female astrologers might be different. Never got my hands on one to validate this though.

Cost to buy the land and build the cottage years ago was about twenty thousand. Best sand beach in the area that you can walk miles on when the tide is out. Warmest ocean water north of Virginia. Today to buy that lot alone with all the building restrictions in place you would be talking real money.

That is one negative side effect of excessive regulations. Still lots of beach front property out there but you cannot get a building permit now. Also even back when we built the place it had to be to house code.

What became of people with modest means just wanting to throw up a simple frame cottage on blocks they could afford and enjoy?

Want a nice sea bass for supper? Take a lawn chair down front bait your hook with squid when the tide is coming in. Sit down and relax for awhile and reel in one. Or if the winds are right launch a sailing dingy.

As for people dropping by or us visiting them. We still see them but not as often as people are very busy today. I cannot even keep current with my list of things that need doing. We have large dinners several times a year with decent attendance. This year instead of the large dinner at the cottage. It was decided that everybody would go to a dinner theatre instead. It may be easier on the wife yet I know she would preffer the dinner at our place. It has been a custom for so many years. A good time with many people at the end of the season. Probably gone forever now.

Part of it might also be this endless acquisition trend. We are starting to see evidence of pressure disease in the population here as well now. People did not have debt here in general when we arrived. It was all too common where we came from. Today in the maritimes high debt loading is probably prevalent. This alone to me is a factor that changes society. People get behind the curve or struggle with it and the laid back lifestyle changes. Retirement is easy here as well but not that much longer if certain trends continue.

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I'm from california,L.A. area.Before I left I hung out with the hip crowd,and partied.When I moved here to the south in 1985,i gave up the wild life.So maybe now since sober there are no social outlets to make friends.Two I have nothing in common with these folks I talk strange,southern folk are clickish.

Guess its to late anyway,I'm basicly waiting around to grow older and die.
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I'm from california,L.A. area.Before I left I hung out with the hip crowd,and partied.When I moved here to the south in 1985,i gave up the wild life.So maybe now since sober there are no social outlets to make friends.Two I have nothing in common with these folks I talk strange,southern folk are clickish.

Guess its to late anyway,I'm basicly waiting around to grow older and die.
Chances are if your neighbors were super friendly, you might grow to resent it sooner rather than later. Small town america has its pluses and minuses.
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So maybe your neighbors share a lot of those "old-time" values but don't let you in on them because you're an outsider.

That's a downside to the social structure of years gone by. When I moved to the country as a teenager, 75% of my neighbors had close blood relatives living within a mile or two. Today, my wife, a big-city girl, has been elected and re-elected twice to a public office. That never would have happened 50 years ago, and is still an anomaly in some areas of the county.

If your area is anything like mine, in-migration of newcomers has some of the established families feeling besieged. They resent the new folks, so don't expect the Welcome Wagon to roll around anytime soon.

As an aside, I've read observations that air conditioning has caused a deterioration in the social fabric because nobody sits out on the front porch anymore to cool off in the evening. Why sit out there swatting mosquitoes (and chatting with neighbors) when you can go inside and enjoy that cool, dehumidified air?
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Chances are if your neighbors were super friendly, you might grow to resent it sooner rather than later. Small town america has its pluses and minuses.
Historically this is true. A lot of people also fled small towns. Still do to some extent . The financial cost of re establishment in Canadas large cities has pretty much stopped the trend.

One issue I have had over the years was access to certain goods living in a small lower population area. The eruption of the internet pretty much solved that.

As a general rule you do not know your neighbours in large cities like I grew up in.
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i grew up in a sub division,mostly everyone knew each other.That was in the 70s,i know there was less pressure then.A man could support his family then.Now here in tn because of low wages,man and wife must work,and man has a side job mowing lawns.
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Maybe your neighbors dont really want to hear how much better everything was in "the good old days" and why wouldnt they rebuild your house for you so you dont have to carry insurance?

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