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Old 07-06-2017, 11:13 AM
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Help me choose another daily driver

Wish list:

Manual transmission
AWD
Wagon
Diesel
Under ~$20k ish, preferably much under

Basically I'm looking for my current Subaru as available in Europe/Japan with the turbodiesel and 6 speed manual. What's the closest I can get here?

Yes, I have looked into doing a swap. Totally possible, but not sure I actually want to undertake that PITA. Swapping to just a manual might be a good compromise, or(much more likely) dumping this car and buying one that's a manual.

Any input?

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Old 07-06-2017, 03:11 PM
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I have a 2011 Outback. It's been rock solid reliable. I have the 2.5 gasser w/CVT. It's only fault is that it has that soulless boring feeling typical of Japanese cars. They do import them with the manual 6, but not with the diesel.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:26 PM
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Wish list:

Manual transmission
AWD
Wagon
Diesel
Under ~$20k ish, preferably much under

Basically I'm looking for my current Subaru as available in Europe/Japan with the turbodiesel and 6 speed manual. What's the closest I can get here?

Yes, I have looked into doing a swap. Totally possible, but not sure I actually want to undertake that PITA. Swapping to just a manual might be a good compromise, or(much more likely) dumping this car and buying one that's a manual.

Any input?
Jeep Liberty diesel.
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Old 07-06-2017, 04:38 PM
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Jeep Liberty diesel.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:43 PM
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Subaru mostly. You may be able to get what you want in a VW, but I don't think I would buy one these days.
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:55 AM
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You can get a VW Cheating Diesel that meets all but one of your requirements.
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Old 07-07-2017, 10:00 AM
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If you feel like spending more than your budget, you can order a new BMW 328d xDrive Touring with a manual transmission.
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Old 07-07-2017, 01:02 PM
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I say go the same awd car, same gas engine, in manual gearbox variant. Sounds like you know and like the platform, and you could definitely find some good options in your price range in a gas variant.

The diesel plus manual plus awd at your price might be unobtanium.

The fun factor of the gearbox might make you forget it isnt diesel. Plus as a dd the bone stock nature of a widely sold version will make it easy to have serviced when you dont want to bother repairing your DD at some point in the future.
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Thanks folks, appreciate the input.

I do really like my current Subaru, only interested in letting it go because of the auto trans. Never have been keen on autos, but this one has been something else entirely, mostly got it for my girlfriend and because I got a good deal. This past week it went beyond "grit my teeth and deal with it" and into "this is a flatly unacceptable situation, either the automatic transmission has to go or the car has to go."

So, ditching the automatic is absolutely top priority. I'd sacrifice the AWD and the diesel requirement long before that.

Currently looking at an '11 Forester w/ 35k miles. And a manual.

If I could find a shop that would do a diesel/manual swap on my current car, someone I could just write a check to and drop off the car for a couple weeks, I would strongly consider it.
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Thanks folks, appreciate the input.

I do really like my current Subaru, only interested in letting it go because of the auto trans. Never have been keen on autos, but this one has been something else entirely, mostly got it for my girlfriend and because I got a good deal. This past week it went beyond "grit my teeth and deal with it" and into "this is a flatly unacceptable situation, either the automatic transmission has to go or the car has to go."

So, ditching the automatic is absolutely top priority. I'd sacrifice the AWD and the diesel requirement long before that.

Currently looking at an '11 Forester w/ 35k miles. And a manual.

If I could find a shop that would do a diesel/manual swap on my current car, someone I could just write a check to and drop off the car for a couple weeks, I would strongly consider it.

It might be really involved to convert to manual, Im sure there are people who have done it and posted about it to get an idea. I had a similar situation with a 99 explorer. I liked the truck, was extremely useful for my job, and I absolutely HATED the automatic. Boring boring boring and unreliable. I figured I would just grab a manual setup out of one of the millions of rangers tooling around.

It turned out that even for a 1999 simple vehicle like an explorer, getting the engine originally mated to the automatic would require a tremendous amount of work around solutions to spoof the ECM and PCM and some other work. Most of the work was computer control modification to create a running reliable vehicle, as compared to the simple installation of the gearbox and transfer case.

It was enough of a PITA on a low value vehicle that I looked for a stock manual vehicle to drive instead. I ended up with a 2wd 5 speed 2012 escape which I love. Simple and fun to drive.

Since you same vehicle came in AWD in stick, id be all over that. Ive driven several of those and they are a blast. Diesel would be wonderful, but might be more trouble than its worth on a DD. Newer you are basically limited to VW in this country.
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:51 AM
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I'd look for a older Jetta wagon,and rebuild engine if I had to. This new crap is junk,payments are house payments.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:19 PM
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You need to look at better houses...
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Old 07-08-2017, 03:16 PM
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Get a life that involves no driving.

If those are your priorities you need a new life.
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:04 PM
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Get a life that involves no driving.

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Old 07-08-2017, 05:50 PM
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Thanks folks, appreciate the input.

I do really like my current Subaru, only interested in letting it go because of the auto trans. Never have been keen on autos, but this one has been something else entirely, mostly got it for my girlfriend and because I got a good deal. This past week it went beyond "grit my teeth and deal with it" and into "this is a flatly unacceptable situation, either the automatic transmission has to go or the car has to go."

So, ditching the automatic is absolutely top priority. I'd sacrifice the AWD and the diesel requirement long before that.

Currently looking at an '11 Forester w/ 35k miles. And a manual.

If I could find a shop that would do a diesel/manual swap on my current car, someone I could just write a check to and drop off the car for a couple weeks, I would strongly consider it.
Unless you find a diesel with a low profile, you have very limited choices for a swap. Your best bet would be to get a gas/manual SH chassis Forester if you can forego the diesel engine (unless doing an auto to manual transmission swap on your current SI chassis Forester is feasible).

Oregon should have plenty of shops that could work on Subarus.

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