Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-20-2017, 12:18 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Renaissances Dude
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 34,120
The Cars That Made America - History Channel

Interesting show. A lot I didn't know here. I'd knew of some of the parameters - with Ford the odd relationship between Edsel and Henry, Edsel's early death, but I didn't know that Edsel was instrumental in creating the B24 they eventually worked up to manufacturing one per hour. Apparently he worked himself into an early grave over it. Amazing stuff. And then Henry Ford ll coming back from the war to take over the company and being forced to deal with the thuggish Harry Bennett. And Henry Ford himself coming across as half crazed often enough.

The Cars That Made America Full Episodes, Video & More | HISTORY

__________________
1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-20-2017, 07:20 PM
greazzer's Avatar
dieselfuelinjector.guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: 2021 - The Great Florida Count-down
Posts: 6,394
I just watched that last night. Not bad.

Are there other episodes? Where's the Indy's ? EG, Packard, et cet ?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-20-2017, 07:35 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmac2012 View Post
Interesting show. A lot I didn't know here. I'd knew of some of the parameters - with Ford the odd relationship between Edsel and Henry, Edsel's early death, but I didn't know that Edsel was instrumental in creating the B24 they eventually worked up to manufacturing one per hour. Apparently he worked himself into an early grave over it. Amazing stuff. And then Henry Ford ll coming back from the war to take over the company and being forced to deal with the thuggish Harry Bennett. And Henry Ford himself coming across as half crazed often enough.

The Cars That Made America Full Episodes, Video & More | HISTORY
I believe Edsel died of cancer, but his mom believed Henry killed him with his treatment of him.

Edsel had a great eye for design. All the fords from 1930 to about 1940 were lovely cars.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-21-2017, 12:54 AM
cmac2012's Avatar
Renaissances Dude
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 34,120
Quote:
Originally Posted by greazzer View Post
I just watched that last night. Not bad.

Are there other episodes? Where's the Indy's ? EG, Packard, et cet ?
According to web there are/were 3 episodes, 2 hours each. Not sure how much of it I've seen. I just found it through channel surfing. Pretty sure what I saw was a repeat from a few days previous. Maybe the ratings kept growing. I hope they show it again and I can get in on the beginning. Might have to get a DVD, if available, or watch it streaming.
__________________
1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-21-2017, 05:40 AM
engatwork's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Soperton, Ga. USA
Posts: 13,667
There are three in the series. I got through the first one last night (thanks DVR) and started on the second. Good stuff if you are into this type stuff.
__________________
Jim
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-21-2017, 09:02 AM
TX76513's Avatar
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brandon, Mississippi
Posts: 5,209
The obscure information is interesting. Didn't know how hung up GM was on the V6 and their idealisms of "mid road".
Also - did anyone notice that some of that old car crash testing video? It was W123's
__________________
BENZ THERE DONE THAThttp://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...c/progress.gif
15 VW Passat TDI
00 E420
98 E300 DT
97 E420 Donor Car - NEED PARTS? PM ME!
97 S500
97 E300D
86 Holden Jackaroo Turbo D
86 300SDL
(o\|/o)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-21-2017, 02:15 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Renaissances Dude
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 34,120
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
I believe Edsel died of cancer, but his mom believed Henry killed him with his treatment of him.

Edsel had a great eye for design. All the fords from 1930 to about 1940 were lovely cars.
Henry the 1st came across like a nut job, which I think was true to the man. OTOH, he was a huge figure, his assembly line breakthrough idea was big.

Edsel had to fight to get the Model A developed and released. Amazing. My old man had a good bit of experience with both and he said the Model A was a big step up from the T.

I suspect both parts of your first sentence are true.
__________________
1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-21-2017, 05:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 5,924
I have read many books on the Ford empire builder.. I always thought they were somewhat doctored. Old Henry was probably not a scrupulous type of individual. To date only written to make a story of the cars and the companies owner look reasonable in general. Or perhaps used as a distraction from how ruthless he may have been. Perhaps viewed as an early public relations effort.

A lot of mythology rather than reality was written perhaps. I would be interested in a serious book about the man. Todays Ford empire might try to stop the publishing of it. Or might even encourage it as it now is so long since his passing.

For example I think he used the continuous moving assembly line but did not really invent or develop it. It is thought he cheated many of the earlier investors as well.

The conditions on his assembly lines where horrific in comparison to some other brands. I also think he personally fought the introduction of the unions. So that he could still primarily retain the slave like working conditions he allowed to exist. At the same time some of his paranoia was probably justified.

The dodge brothers for example. An outside parts supply contractor for Ford. . Eventually started their own brand of cars. They were a much better employer in general with no erratic behaviors mentioned in comparison. Treated their workforce far better than Ford as to working conditions.


Last edited by barry12345; 08-21-2017 at 05:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page