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Have you ever had to kick your child out of your home?
I had to at the end of June. My son, who has been caught twice before with drugs and drug paraphanalia, was caught by me and my wife after his truck broke down in Ohio. We drove 3 hours to get to him and fix the truck, only to pull up behind his truck and see him hitting a bong in the bed of the truck, under the camper shell. I told him that he had two choices at that moment, agree to go to rehab, or collect his things from my home and live elsewhere. I took his cell phone after he called someone else to come to his aid, ripped a few items that belonged to me out of the truck and drove back home, leaving him in Colombus.
When he came to collect his items, which I had gone through, he was high on some sort of opiate...knowing that marijuana coming from the Dayton and Cincy area is laced with fentanal, I suspect it came from there. When I went through his things, I found bottles of pills that were prescribed to me such as Percocet, and Tramadal that was prescribed for out oldest dog. He also had a bottle of Xanax, and a few others. There were also 3 quart jars filled with marijuana. When he saw I had those items and that he wasn't getting them back, he blew up, became physical with me and my wife, and stormed out of the home. I called the police and all they did was write a report. I was told that there was nothing they would do since they didn't deem it to be a great amount, and the county was refusing to try cases from what they consider to be small timer users/dealers. In the fight with my son, the shoulder I had recently had surgery on was reinjured, and I had to go back under the knife to repair it. My wife didn't have any injuries, as I launched at him as he was swinging at her, and knocked him back to he point that he only grazed her arm. My son went to live with his sister in Ohio for a few weeks, and is now back in the area. He called me on Saturday to ask for all of his stuff that he left here. After explaining PA law, and how his 10 days plus 30 day period was over, and that it was now considered abandoned items and belonged to me, I told him that he can earn it back if he helped me by cutting my grass and removing the camper shell from my truck. When he was done, I fed him lunch, packed up some leftover vegetable soup I made, and told him to pack his stuff into my truck, that I would deliver it with him to where he is now living, which is only a mile or so away. Because of all of this, my oldest daughter has now told me that I am not allowed to attend her wedding. She believes that there is nothing wrong with marijuana, and that I was wrong to kick him out. She refuses to believe me about the pills, or the fact that on the phone confescated, which was on my account and paid for by me, that there were conversations about dealing, as well as buying strips, which is acid. My son has really screwed some things up here in my family, but at least I am back on speaking terms with him. He called me yesterday to thank me, and to tell me that he has been talking with some friends he made through the church group he used to attend, and that he is close to agreeing to go to rehab. Sadly, I had to tell him that while I will do what I can to help him, living in my home is no longer an option for him. He understands, but it broke my heart to tell him that. My younger daughter still lives at home with my wife and me, and can't believe the mess her brother has made. They aren't speaking yet, but I hope that relationship can be repaired soon. Especially since my wife and I are going to move sometime before the end of the year to Ohio, leaving her to buy this house from us. She's going to need the relationship with her brother with us being gone. How many here have had to go to that extreme to protect their home and family? How many here have had issues with drug use in their family?? When will our society get a handle on the rampant illegal drug use??? I'm not looking for a cure, I'm looking for an end to a means. This as ripped our family into factions, and I refuse to accept illegal drug use just to keep my family together. I've experienced funerals of close friends and cousins that died from overdoses and drug related shootings in the past, and refuse to accept anymore of it. I've lived a clean life, hating the meds that I'm prescribed to stay alive, and am expected to accept illegal drug use as the norm in our society?? This is total BS, folks. Sorry that it's been awhile since I visited this site, but I'm just now getting back to something that resembles normality. As you can read above, life has been hectic for me lately... Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
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You kicked your kid out of the house for smoking pot? Well I'm sure thats going to solve everything.
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Yes my daughter and her husband stayed in my travel trailer.They'd party,and not get out of bed till 3 pm.sad for me as my daughter married the wrong guy,and later died from his laziness,and getting her to inject drugs.They have to hit rock bottom alone,I used drugs,and drank in the 70s.But I got sick and tired of not having anything,feeling like crap.I quit with no help,went into the wild and kicked. Then moved away from so called friends.
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I hate to be the one to ask the question, but surely you knew something was going on? Drug use like that doesn't just "happen" it starts small and keeps going until it explodes out of control. It's pretty easy to spot someone on drugs and you can certainly smell it when they smoke pot, the harder stuff generally results in mood and behavior changes that aren't "normal" for the person. Really hard stuff to ignore or be oblivious to, especially when the person is living in your house with you.
Drug use is bad, but unless the person using them desires to quit using them, they will never stop. Forcing someone into rehab does nothing unless they actually truly want it to work. My half-sister has been to rehab so many times that nobody's counting anymore. About 10 years ago she took her infant son to Wal-mart, set him in a cart, then walked out and left, not even remembering being there. CPS took the kid and put him in a foster home. Even that didn't change her.
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drug treatment only works when you want to,I'm sick of folks saying its a diesease,Its a habit. My daughter was shotting suboxone from a drug clinic and selling the other dose,cause her husband would not work.They heat the drug up and it seperates, and they get a high.
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her death destroyed me,and i have over whelming hate for this whole area.I pleaded with the law to stop them,everytime his druggie family would hire a lawyer,and he'd walk.
That's why i pray for nuclear war,I hate Tennessee.
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This as been an ongoing thing...the reason he completed his Senior year of HS at home on the computer. I knew about the drugs, and admittedly, didn't want to know the truth. I confronted him twice before, once when I caught him, and again when he was caught at school. By the last 9 weeks of the school year, I concentrated on his graduating so he could at least have a diploma in hand before he got caught again and kicked out. He was well aware of my 3 strikes approach, and refused to help himself.
Rock bottom is where he needs to hit before he can start moving up again. Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
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True,when I got tired of sleeping under bridges,and eating out of trash cans.Waking up bloody from fights,i changed.
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sorry,I ranted,you love your children,and a father would give his life.but drugs,or alcohol,is something you can't fight.
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I have the backing of my entire family, except my oldest daughter. My step-son flew in from CA to see me after he found out what happened, and to check on his mom. He burried his cousin on his father's side a few months ago after many years of drug addiction. He's been trying to reach out to his step-brother to try and help him, but feels he is getting nowhere. My son and I have agreed to meet once a week at a local diner for lunch. He is finally reaching out to me via text messaging, so I feel there's hope. He understands now what he'd done, but I'm not so sure he's willing to make the steps on his own to clean it up. The ball is in his court... Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
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1987 560SL 85,000 miles Meet on the level, leave on the square. Great words to live by Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread. - Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821.
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Good luck Jon!
I never had to kick out any kids, but I did my brother! (not as hard I'm sure).
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Tough situation, Jon. I wish you and your family the best of luck.
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I have a simple solution to drug,and alcohol addiction in america.For Poppies,and Coca plants,agent orange.For pill,and alcohol abuse,mix small amounts of the medicine that makes you vomit.Hence,no drunk driving,or overdose's.
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Its a community of users that bring the other users in as a commodity,most den up and us new users that havent lost their job and or possesions ,they struggling to fill each day .To sponge ,beg ,borrow ,even guilt is used to make their resources (new users) as the cycle is the addiction .The people he has surrounded himself with,( could be a girl) look at people as resources ,its how they spend their existance.
Scale yourself back and try to make it less emotional ,this gets tricky since everyone has their own opinion. Say you would like to speak to him only as a friend would and keep it at that ,a 5 minute talk with no preaching ,just day to day activity ,hows it going but not to personal .Your the adult and he knows you care but just lost abit of his way.Ok ,the talk ,if its about money and future he will need an employer who allows him to use drugs ,cant say Ive ever heard of one ,A job that requires no drug habits should be part of the talk ,employor application earning x dollars or minimium unless he can secure a trade .All you want is whats best for him and drugs or any assoc. with drugs is a glamour falsehood ,makes you feel something your not . Faster at work ,better at tasks ,humerous ,some kind of hero ,all self proscribed BS. .Its a man who can take care of a family who pulls up those as points on the board . Face it fact to fact and a few talks should pull a way back to finding some common ground.You still have his trust and without sounding like a talk show give it your own voice ,he will hear what you mean ,but again without emotions. Post #11 --- good to hear this. Last edited by chasinthesun; 08-29-2017 at 01:18 PM. |
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