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Maybe? The ZF 8spd is an incredibly efficient and versatile auto box (hence why its almost ubiquitous these days). It is possible the xdrive awd system saps more power between shifts or something. Just spitballing, but the point is its am extremely good auto box. Manuals are for us enthusiasts and that is about it.
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I can find historical examples all day of how manuals are more efficient than automatics when i deliberately choose old inefficient variants of automatics to compare, and do nothing else. That is a meaningless comparison projected on modern vehicles and the various types of newer automatics out there. Not sure what the big deal is in admitting manuals are for enthusiasts now. There is no argument. They were passed years ago in efficiency, the human element slows things down. Look at racing.
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Yes, modern autos as compared to the same car model with a manual will net better fuel mileage thanks to computer technology. So what? I don’t drive a stick nowadays for better fuel mileage. I drive a manual because I ENJOY driving a manual.
I’ll make everyone a deal; I’ll let you drive your auto if you’ll let me have my clutch pedal.
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The manufacturers are the ones who are telling you that you cannot buy a new stick.
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[QUOTE=rwd4evr;4016095]Well considering I don't own a car newer than 1999 I'm not the one to blame. [QUOTE]
LMAO like every manual aficionado on the internet. Cry that the manufactures don't make cars they want...well why would they you don't buy new cars...funny how that works. Porsche still makes a great stick because....the buyers of new Porsche's buy them...funny how that works.
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Considering that both Ferrari and Lamborghini dispensed with the engine out service 20 years ago, I bet its not that bad.
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[QUOTE=Hatterasguy;4035807][QUOTE=rwd4evr;4016095]Well considering I don't own a car newer than 1999 I'm not the one to blame.
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If someone is not a customer of a product a manufacturer makes, that person has no say in what the manufacturer makes.
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[QUOTE=JB3;4037721][QUOTE=rwd4evr;4037657]Sd is not a classic car in my opinion because of that. Plastic bumpers. It's honestly a car I drive because it's still way cooler than anything stone reliable you can buy for 400$, hell $ 4000. It's a beating heart looking for a sexy body to occupy. A correct euro version c107 is not loaded with plastic. It's there but any car after the 50s is. A c107 still has card board crap too. But my real love are fintails and there is not a whole lot of plastic in them at all. And most are manual trans. I just picked up a w116 350se that may be the right home for the om617 turbo. Small bumpers, manual windows and climate control. Not quite fintail pretty but at least it's not plastic bumpered.
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The fintail has a plywood glove box door.
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Maybe yours does. Mine have a solid hunk of wood or Bakelite in my 190c.
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Well it has been 40 years since I had one. I'm not sure if it was plywood or solid wood.
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