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merc lover 01-10-2020 10:11 AM

The need for a mobile police scanner.
 
A few years ago, local sheriffs got into a high speed chase with a bad guy. Speeds exceeded 100 MPH on a 40 MPH street. The driver who was being chased hit a friend's car (she was doing 40 MPH, he was doing 100 MPH while running from the sheriffs) flipping her upside down. She was taken to the hospital; fortunately she suffered no injuries.

Yesterday, local police got into a high speed chase with speeds exceeding 80 MPH in a 40 MPH speed zone. The culprit's car hit another car, totaling it. The people in that car had to be taken to the hospital while the suspects were taken into custody.

At the same time all this happened, I happened to be in the area and could have easily been in the middle of the entire mess. I'm thanking my lucky stars I happened to be a few minutes late to the party. When I arrived at the major intersection just north of the incident, police had already blocked it off to prevent other motorist from going into the area where the crash had JUST occurred.

I'm thinking a mobile police scanner might be beneficial. You could listen to the police scanner for high speed pursuits in your area so you could avoid getting into a collision.

davidmash 01-10-2020 10:59 AM

Stop lying. You do not have this many friends, much less this many friends who happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time to experience so much crap.

Diseasel300 01-10-2020 11:59 AM

Good luck with the police scanner. More and more police departments and state agencies are moving to encrypted digital radio systems. Your police scanner will not work if your LEO agency uses such systems.

P.C. 01-10-2020 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3995727)
A few years ago, local sheriffs got into a high speed chase with a bad guy. Speeds exceeded 100 MPH on a 40 MPH street. The driver who was being chased hit a friend's car (she was doing 40 MPH, he was doing 100 MPH while running from the sheriffs) flipping her upside down. She was taken to the hospital; fortunately she suffered no injuries.

Yesterday, local police got into a high speed chase with speeds exceeding 80 MPH in a 40 MPH speed zone. The culprit's car hit another car, totaling it. The people in that car had to be taken to the hospital while the suspects were taken into custody.

At the same time all this happened, I happened to be in the area and could have easily been in the middle of the entire mess. I'm thanking my lucky stars I happened to be a few minutes late to the party. When I arrived at the major intersection just north of the incident, police had already blocked it off to prevent other motorist from going into the area where the crash had JUST occurred.

I'm thinking a mobile police scanner might be beneficial. You could listen to the police scanner for high speed pursuits in your area so you could avoid getting into a collision.

Your friends seem to have this Forrest Gump-like predilection to be in interesting places at (in)opportune times.

P.C. 01-10-2020 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diseasel300 (Post 3995777)
Good luck with the police scanner. More and more police departments and state agencies are moving to encrypted digital radio systems. Your police scanner will not work if your LEO agency uses such systems.

There are cellphone apps that provide the ability to monitor some police frequencies.

merc lover 01-10-2020 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3995754)
Stop lying. You do not have this many friends, much less this many friends who happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time to experience so much crap.

The people who got hit said the last thing they thought might happen was to get into a HEAD ON collision with an idiot running from the cops going 100+++MPH.

Sooner or later, with the police choosing to get into hot pursuits of bad guys, your number is bound to come up. If I were you, I'd tighten my seat belt an extra notch or two. Hang up the smart phone and look in your rear view mirror to check for flashing cherry lights in pursuit of a Ford F250 coming up your six at more than 100 MPH.

I get a warm glow just thinking about it.

merc lover 01-10-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3995786)
There are cellphone apps that provide the ability to monitor some police frequencies.


True that. Speaking of friends, I happened upon the accident scene of the first one. I witnessed the car flipped upside down lying in the grass shoulder off the street. I didn't find out until the next day that the motorist running from the cops had hit my friend and she she had been taken to the hospital.

This. All it takes is being in the wrong place at the wrong time and you can easily find yourself in the middle of a high speed cop chase gone wrong.

Dudesky 01-10-2020 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diseasel300 (Post 3995777)
Good luck with the police scanner. More and more police departments and state agencies are moving to encrypted digital radio systems. Your police scanner will not work if your LEO agency uses such systems.

The only system I'm aware of that you can't pickup would be OpenSky and no one made scanners for that type. Pennsylvania State Police bought into the system quite a while ago and have had all kinds of problems since then. In 2017 they decided to scrap it and go with Project 25 Phase II which one can monitor with a scanner set up for that mode.

Most locals here in Pittsburgh are on VHF Hi. The 800mHz doesn't get it in hilly areas. My scanners aren't 25 phase ll capable, so if I want to monitor PSP again, I'll have to upgrade. I take a portable on trips but most places now are on 25 phase ll or Motorola x2.

GRE and Whistler are supposed to be good choices but come in around $800.

https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/APCO_Project_25#Scanner_Support_for_TDMA

davidmash 01-10-2020 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3995846)
The people who got hit said the last thing they thought might happen was to get into a HEAD ON collision with an idiot running from the cops going 100+++MPH.

Sooner or later, with the police choosing to get into hot pursuits of bad guys, your number is bound to come up. If I were you, I'd tighten my seat belt an extra notch or two. Hang up the smart phone and look in your rear view mirror to check for flashing cherry lights in pursuit of a Ford F250 coming up your six at more than 100 MPH.

I get a warm glow just thinking about it.

How would.you know what people who you do not know, who are in a fabricated store, said upon impact?

merc lover 01-10-2020 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3995873)
How would.you know what people who you do not know, who are in a fabricated store, said upon impact?


As an investigative journalist, I have inside sources.

vwnate1 01-10-2020 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3995966)
As an investigative journalist, I have inside sources.

L.O.L. ! .

That's rich H.M. .

merc lover 01-10-2020 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 3995973)
L.O.L. ! .

That's rich H.M. .




It's M.L. Please use the correct initials when dissing me.

vwnate1 01-11-2020 09:42 AM

You're a coward who won't admit your name along with the rest of your wild fantasies H.M. .

Remember ? I along with others here tried to be friendly and helpful, you're always crazy, paranoid and on the attack then you cry because you're so unhappy .....

ILUVMILS 01-11-2020 09:47 AM

I'm glad HM/ML is back! Always entertaining............

merc lover 01-11-2020 11:04 AM

internet forum stalkers: #1 reason to NEVER reveal your identity.

vwnate1 01-11-2020 11:16 AM

Oddly this has never been a problem for me you crazy guy :P .

There are medications that will help you .

barry12345 01-11-2020 01:24 PM

I have been fortunate accident wise over many decades. Rather than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I feel it is being in the right place at the wrong time that gets you into them.

Yet we suffer high premiums because the wife seems to engage in totaling cars at times. Or being involved in situations that do. I was actually surprised that they did not drop us as customers some years back.

When I was 16 I wanted a car. A good used car was about a hundred dollars. An exceptional one perhaps 300.00. Insurance was also about 100.00 a year. A part time after school job very easily covered it. Plus all the operating costs.

Where a new young driver around here today .Gets hit with a several hundred dollars a month insurance premium. Unless they can piggyback on their parents policies.

davidmash 01-11-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996213)
internet forum stalkers: #1 reason to NEVER reveal your identity.

You came back here. No one forced you to do it.

tbomachines 01-11-2020 02:54 PM

Nowadays, cops often break off the chase if it reaches anywhere close to that number or becomes dangerous to the public.

vwnate1 01-12-2020 10:06 AM

Paranoia
 
Let's not forget that H.M.'s isp is visible meaning anyone who cares can easily trace his physical location.... more dishonesty from him .

Just yesterday the L.A.P.D. broke off a chase of a stolen Mercedes from Boyle Heights (East L.A.) when it exceeded 100 MPH in traffic, the dolt of course didn't slow down and crashed it less than 10 miles from where he stole it....

There really is no fixing stupid .

Out running the radio is close to impossible anyway .

merc lover 01-12-2020 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3996269)
Nowadays, cops often break off the chase if it reaches anywhere close to that number or becomes dangerous to the public.

Only in certain localities do they choose to break off the chase. Check out youtube for many many many police chase videos. 100++MPH is not unusual.

Believe me, if the suspect they are chasing happens to hit you while traveling 100++MPH, you are going to feel it. Like my friend whose car was flipped upside down, it might get you a trip to the hospital. Do you believe the cops care if innocent motorists are caught up in this insanity?

RIGHT HERE:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+police+chase

Dudesky 01-12-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3996259)
You came back here. No one forced you to do it.

New Billy Bob fantasy?

INSIDIOUS 01-12-2020 11:20 PM

Not to put to fine a point on it ...
 
...so where is this mythical locale? we should be able to see some news articles about this, yes?
Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3995727)
A few years ago, local sheriffs got into a high speed chase with a bad guy. Speeds exceeded 100 MPH on a 40 MPH street. The driver who was being chased hit a friend's car (she was doing 40 MPH, he was doing 100 MPH while running from the sheriffs) flipping her upside down. She was taken to the hospital; fortunately she suffered no injuries.

Yesterday, local police got into a high speed chase with speeds exceeding 80 MPH in a 40 MPH speed zone. The culprit's car hit another car, totaling it. The people in that car had to be taken to the hospital while the suspects were taken into custody.

At the same time all this happened, I happened to be in the area and could have easily been in the middle of the entire mess. I'm thanking my lucky stars I happened to be a few minutes late to the party. When I arrived at the major intersection just north of the incident, police had already blocked it off to prevent other motorist from going into the area where the crash had JUST occurred.

I'm thinking a mobile police scanner might be beneficial. You could listen to the police scanner for high speed pursuits in your area so you could avoid getting into a collision.


merc lover 01-13-2020 10:01 AM

I suggest you have a sit down with your local PD concerning their so-called "Policy" concerning police pursuits. Remember, all it takes is a big Ford Police interceptor engine under the hood, sirens, flashing cherry lights and a very HEAVY right foot.

You might wish to consider tightening your seat belt an extra notch or two and keep an eye on the rear view mirror as well as traffic coming from the left or right when approaching an intersection.

Don't blink.

vwnate1 01-13-2020 10:19 AM

I don't know what happened but yesterday evening I was driving South on Lakewood in Downey, Ca. and came upon a terrible wreck, a new large black BMW four door sedan had been traveling at a high rate of speed and hit the road divider flipped and hit a lamp post with it's roof, crushing the roof in and snapping off the lamp post....

I wonder if the driver survived .

There was only the one wrecked BMW plus multiple black & whites, tow truck and so on .

I wonder if it had been a chase .

merc lover 01-13-2020 10:24 AM

Thank your lucky stars you weren't their earlier and gotten hit!

vwnate1 01-13-2020 10:47 AM

Collisions
 
As a matter of fact, I had two Foster boys and my Sweet in the car and I mentioned that to them, they'd not considered the BMW flying through the air and hitting / landing on us or shedding parts at high velocity.....

Watching that stuff on the T.V. is entertaining, being there very much less so .

merc lover 01-13-2020 10:59 AM

Had I been five minutes earlier, I would have been in the middle of a high speed police pursuit a few days ago. I'm purchasing a mobile police scanner so I will be aware of high speed police chases. Hopefully, the scanner will allow me to stay clear of trouble.

Dudesky 01-13-2020 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996518)
Only in certain localities do they choose to break off the chase. Check out youtube for many many many police chase videos. 100++MPH is not unusual.

Believe me, if the suspect they are chasing happens to hit you while traveling 100++MPH, you are going to feel it. Like my friend whose car was flipped upside down, it might get you a trip to the hospital. Do you believe the cops care if innocent motorists are caught up in this insanity?

RIGHT HERE:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+police+chase

Live PD shows hot pursuits many times, ending as you indicated.

INSIDIOUS 01-13-2020 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996805)
I suggest you have a sit down with your local PD concerning their so-called "Policy" concerning police pursuits. Remember, all it takes is a big Ford Police interceptor engine under the hood, sirens, flashing cherry lights and a very HEAVY right foot.

You might wish to consider tightening your seat belt an extra notch or two and keep an eye on the rear view mirror as well as traffic coming from the left or right when approaching an intersection.

Don't blink.

LOL, @ ^dweebage

ILUVMILS 01-13-2020 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996841)
I'm purchasing a mobile police scanner so I will be aware of high speed police chases. Hopefully, the scanner will allow me to stay clear of trouble.

While you're paying such careful attention to your scanner try not to rear-end a cop car...….

merc lover 01-13-2020 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILUVMILS (Post 3996884)
While you're paying such careful attention to your scanner try not to rear-end a cop car...….


all you do is listen to the scanner. This doesn't require you to take your hands from the wheel. Besides police pursuits, you get updates on plain old fashion accidents.

Speaking of police chases, I might see chasing a bank robber, burglar, killer, etc. The other day, a cop car passed me going well north of twice the posted speed limit. When I came up to the next intersection I was able to see he was speeding to get to a non-injury accident.

Dubyagee 01-13-2020 12:42 PM

https://www.zipscanners.com/resources/are-police-scanners-legal/

FCBayernFTW 01-13-2020 12:48 PM

The need for a mobile police scanner.
 
Some departments are encrypting their channels

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/360/more-police-departments-are-encrypting-their-scanners-raising-freedom-of-information-concerns

merc lover 01-13-2020 02:04 PM

The encrypted radios are costing we, the sheeple, big money. The police agencies are as busy as beavers buying up as many new toys as they can so they can better protect us from ourselves.

Tazers, encrypted radios, every new SWAT team toy you can imagine. There is an entire industry devoted to selling them new toys.......on your dime.

ILUVMILS 01-13-2020 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996892)
......The other day, a cop car passed me going well north of twice the posted speed limit. When I came up to the next intersection I was able to see he was speeding to get to a non-injury accident.

What was the posted speed limit “the other day”? How do you know it was a “non-injury” accident? Was it a “plain old-fashioned accident”? How far was the “next intersection” from where the “cop car” passed you? What would you have done if you were “listening “ to your scanner and knew the “cop car” was responding to the aforementioned accident????

I could keep typing, but.........:rolleyes:

vwnate1 01-13-2020 09:54 PM

As Usual,
 
H.M. is laying .

If it wasn't for a select few of his comments you'd think he was one more emotional child living in mommy's basement .

Diseasel300 01-13-2020 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 3996922)
The encrypted radios are costing we, the sheeple, big money. The police agencies are as busy as beavers buying up as many new toys as they can so they can better protect us from ourselves.

Tazers, encrypted radios, every new SWAT team toy you can imagine. There is an entire industry devoted to selling them new toys.......on your dime.

Husky......is that you? I was wondering where all my tinfoil was disappearing to!

vwnate1 01-14-2020 10:09 AM

He's Baaaaaaaack.....
 
Yes it's him, everyone's been making fun of him since he got banned and re instated .

Paranoia is a very sad mental illness .

merc lover 01-18-2020 10:55 AM

I got a visual on the "accident" which was in reality a fender bender. The cops regularly travel at 100++MPH with sirens blaring and lights flashing to non-events. Slamming their right foot down on that big block ford police interceptor engine makes them feel more like cops.

vwnate1 01-19-2020 12:51 AM

More Lunacy
 
There haven't been any big block police intercepters since the 1970's you nit wit .

Then you cry and say I'm dissing you when you're making an endless public fool of your self, I needn't do anything .

I do agree that the P.D. driver training needs to be better, much better .

Dudesky 01-19-2020 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCBayernFTW (Post 3996898)

Usually, down the road, there is a remedy.

vwnate1 01-19-2020 09:30 PM

Encrypted / Restricted
 
Yes, just so :

When I was working with Air Support the Avionics Techs would cheerfully make scanners able to listen to cell 'phones and they said they could do the same to encrypted police transmissions of you bought a specific scanner.....

FCBayernFTW 01-19-2020 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 3999220)
Yes, just so :



When I was working with Air Support the Avionics Techs would cheerfully make scanners able to listen to cell 'phones and they said they could do the same to encrypted police transmissions of you bought a specific scanner.....



Yea inadvertent intercepting of cell phone bandwidth is frowned upon. [emoji23]

vwnate1 01-20-2020 10:47 AM

Cell 'Phone Eavesdropping
 
I remember in the early 1970's when (I think) mobile telephones were a new thing, a buddy of mine had one in his van and I could simply pick it up and listen in to others talking.....

Most police radio traffic is boring, wants and warrants, tag & VIN checks and so on .

Last thing I know the C.H.P. and Caltrans still used open VHF radios, very easy and cheap to get scanners for .

Mxfrank 01-20-2020 12:04 PM

Different tech by two generations, the 70’s stuff was just radio phone. You have do do something more than casual eavesdropping to audit spread spectrum digital cell transmissions.

Dudesky 01-20-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 3999220)
Yes, just so :

When I was working with Air Support the Avionics Techs would cheerfully make scanners able to listen to cell 'phones and they said they could do the same to encrypted police transmissions of you bought a specific scanner.....

I did over a hundred mods....few diodes or resistors clipped....if you can solder you can mod. They make them now with the stuff in the IC. Couple lead clips and software you can do it on them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCBayernFTW (Post 3999242)
Yea inadvertent intercepting of cell phone bandwidth is frowned upon. [emoji23]

Actually, it's using information from them like was done to Gingrich by a couple who just 'happened' to catch the Newt on the phone, 'several' times. Nothing happened to them as far as I know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mxfrank (Post 3999389)
Different tech by two generations, the 70’s stuff was just radio phone. You have do do something more than casual eavesdropping to audit spread spectrum digital cell transmissions.

Spread spectrum tech has been easily monitored for several decades....you can buy scanners off the shelf today.

That system in Pa was CDMA based I think, anyways, there were software get arounds if you were intent on picking PSP up.

FCBayernFTW 01-20-2020 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3999418)
I did over a hundred mods....few diodes or resistors clipped....if you can solder you can mod. They make them now with the stuff in the IC. Couple lead clips and software you can do it on them.


Actually, it's using information from them like was done to Gingrich by a couple who just 'happened' to catch the Newt on the phone, 'several' times. Nothing happened to them as far as I know.


Spread spectrum tech has been easily monitored for several decades....you can buy scanners off the shelf today.

That system in Pa was CDMA based I think, anyways, there were software get arounds if you were intent on picking PSP up.



It also depends on which enabler you’re using....if it’s title X, there are EOs that prohibit leveraging whatever’s collected...*at least overtly. [emoji2369]

Dudesky 01-22-2020 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCBayernFTW (Post 3999448)
It also depends on which enabler you’re using....if it’s title X, there are EOs that prohibit leveraging whatever’s collected...*at least overtly. [emoji2369]

true...is what I was making a point about.


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