A level playing field is just better for all to start with. I believe in fairness all around anyways. Not that it exists all the time. Or seldom even that often in reality.

According to Larry and Slo, that is socialist speak.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

How many automotive brands made their names in racing? The machine and the driver matter.

Not in dispute. My issue is that when you have different companies or what ever they are pumping money and tech in the vehicles.

I do not care for sports but the sports I do watch in passing are ones where the people are the focus. I do not care for auto racing because it is impossible to tell if the winner won because of skill or his car. Put them all in the same car like the IROC races (if I recall correctly) and then we know who the best racer is.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

....And this is why I prefer to drive old vehicles fast ~ it's cheaper and the onus is on the driver, not the vehicle .

It's nice to see some here are actual Sailors .

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I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

I think there is room for both hi tech and spec racers.

Myself I run in Cmod at the autocross. It is a tightly regulated class and at nationals I imagine that you could take the top guy and put him in any car on the grid and he'd at least podium if not win.

I like it because they don't change the rules hardly ever and so you can compete in any car available and it is still be competitive no matter how old if it is in top nick.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Okay, well, maybe you want to suggest to the folks in Indianapolis that they have their 500 in equally matched, restored Model A’s. That way we can remove all that silly thinking about how to improve the car and only have faster times strictly due to driver skill.

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You’re not allowed to change the setup in any way?

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Stop being a dumb ass.

I said nothing of limiting advancements. All I was talking about is having the competitors use th same vehicle. I am more interested in the skill of the person, not the tool. I don't care if they drive a Model t or a Tesla or a McLaren. Just have them all drive the same vehicle.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

I didn't suggest that.

The suspension is fully adjustable and you can do what you like with it. The engines are equal and tightly regulated, the wheels are spec size and the transmissions are specified. You can run any gears in the transmission though to adjust for different courses.

There is a minimum weight which includes the driver.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Then you’re set up savvy plays into the equation just like the sailors equipment savvy plays into theirs.

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In racing, a big part of the skill is the innovation and set up of the tool. Do you think that the top race car drivers are fast simply because they can press harder on the gas pedal? They are faster in part because they know how to adjust their setup.

So are the sailors not sailing the same type boats? Surely there are some rules of some sort. If they’re modifying within those rules what’s the problem? If they are violating the rules disqualify them.

I was hoping we had gotten by the name calling. I most especially don’t like being called vulgar names. You can apologize or I will respond in like, albeit not a vulgar, form.

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Just like car racing, business, taxes and life in general you read the rules, you tweak the settings, and see if the rule enforcers agree or miss the tweaks. Exploit the loop holes, and see what the rules don't cover. Yeah, you may be the one who causes the rules to change.... but that is for those who are behind you.

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59 VW Beetle ragtop- 175k miles
12 VW Jetta- 160k miles

I get that but I like sports where it is about the skill of the person, not the tool. IROC races is a perfect example. Cars are identically prepared. Its about the driver. Picking the right line, drafting, picking the right time to pass, pushing your car harder than the next guy and doing it at the right time. To me, that is racing. YMMV.

And if you want to talk about name calling and insults, start with your first post here where you brought politics into something that has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Then we can talk about the Model T crack, which again, had absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Exactly. Larry you can do better.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.