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Old 08-17-2020, 07:21 PM
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Post Crash Box Trannies

#1 : a 1959 Rambler had a Borg Warner three speed tranny with only first gear non synchronized .

# 2 : any straight cut gear box is by definition a crasher .

I bet this thing is a hoot to drive, I wish I had the skill set to try it .

I can shift most trannies without using the clutch nor grinding the gears .

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Old 08-17-2020, 07:38 PM
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Is this a Merlin by any chance?
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Old 08-17-2020, 11:05 PM
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Our car was an american and did not have any synchromesh. I knew how to double clutch before I had a license. I'm not sure if it meets the definition of straight crash though.

The Van Dieman is a hoot to drive. The trick is getting in and out.
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Old 08-17-2020, 11:16 PM
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Post 1959 Rambler American

I remember these well .

Yours may have had a dragging clutch or worn out synchronizers but it certainly had synchros on 2nd & 3rd gears....
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Old 08-18-2020, 09:50 AM
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I have spent a good while trying to prove our car had no synchromesh. The only reference to a non synchro rambler american comes from the section of Mexican production:

From Wikipedia: The 1967 models saw a new semiconcave squared tail light design and the five-dial instrument cluster with a round speedometer at the very center. The best change for the year appeared in the form of the fully synchronized 150-T model three-speed manual transmission as standard equipment, meaning the end of non-synchromesh units in VAM cars. The new transmission was joined by a 3.73:1 rear differential gear ratio. Hazard lights were added to the standard equipment list.

Seems unlikely we had a Mexican built car in Greencastle Indiana but I suppose it is possible with the University there someone brought one up? I can remember double clutching it into second at a higher speed than possible without the synchro and no double clutching.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:02 AM
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Another non specific wikipedia note: Prior to 1960, most cars used constant-mesh but non-synchronous transmissions.

I looked in my old car repair books too but no dice.
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:39 AM
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Just go crack a shop manual, you'll see .

Almost every American car made before 1968 had non synchro 1st gear .

Over hauling them was regular corner filling station work .
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:47 PM
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I have cracked all my manuals with no luck.
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Old 08-18-2020, 03:15 PM
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Tom ;

You've not looked in the 1959 Rambler shop manual or you'd see .

This is getting silly .
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Old 08-18-2020, 03:49 PM
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If I had one I would look at it. Do you have one?

This is an American not a full sized Classic (is that the right name?)
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Old 08-18-2020, 04:00 PM
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Yes, the American was the compact size .
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:23 PM
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:40 PM
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Post Flash-O-Matic Slush box

That too was a Borg Warner product, the same one designed for the Ford V8 powered cars, that's why it's so robust and rarely fails in normal use .

The #35 , I have the Metric version from a 1979 Datsun B210 in my 1959 Nash Metropolitan FHC, it's designation is the M35 .

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