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Old 03-26-2021, 07:31 PM
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Suez canal ship?

This is sizing up to be a potentially gigantic game changer. I can see this becoming part of a military flare up.

So how will it be removed?
1. tug it off the sand?
2. Dig out under it?
3. Dig out so boats can go around it?
4. Blow it to bits?

I am thinking answer one two and three. 4. only in an emergency.

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Old 03-26-2021, 08:05 PM
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If it is loaded, unload the cargo to lighten it. Any idea how it happened?
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Old 03-26-2021, 08:46 PM
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I think a sand storm shallowed the passage?
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Old 03-26-2021, 09:23 PM
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I hope they are taking this opportunity to run their dredges from both ends.
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:04 AM
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The storm blew it off course with limited visibility too. It is heavily loaded. I imagine they will begin to unload it soon.
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Old 03-27-2021, 02:01 AM
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Remember those sand pumpers they used in Dubai? built up those islands by pumping sand and spraying it long distance ... could have one of those working from each end dredging out as much as possible until the ship frees up. Assuming they can feed from near or under the ship.
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Old 03-27-2021, 04:37 AM
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I am trying to imagine.. How would one unload it? Gangplank and roll them off? Construction crane?
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Old 03-27-2021, 05:41 AM
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a big crane. I don't know if there is a mobile big enough to lift the boxes.
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Old 03-27-2021, 05:42 AM
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Is there a helicopter big enough to pick them up?
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:19 AM
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Temporary dam downstream to lift it then remove the dam.
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:43 AM
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Looking at a photo of the ship, it’s like a huge sail. Lateral wind probably surprised the pilot who undercompensated and the massive ship drifted out of the narrow fairway.

There are huge cranes on barges in major seaports. Depending on how far it has to travel, a crane barge could unload containers to other vessels to lighten the load

Pumping sand from under it is a viable, but potentially damaging alternative. Pumping could put an uneven load on the keel which could damage the hull with failure of water-right integrity a real possibility.

The pilot and Master are in huge trouble. Their careers are probably over.
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Old 03-27-2021, 10:08 AM
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I wonder why it was driving erratically before the grounding. That wasnt wind related.
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Old 03-27-2021, 10:42 AM
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tie fast to ship on one side 2 to 3 smaller boats as outriggers. pump ballast out of large ship, adjusting outrigger ships, once hull on large shipp cleared bottom slowly tow to deeper part. then refill ballast.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:47 AM
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Is there a helicopter big enough to pick them up?
Some Chinooks can take at least 24K # payload.
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:44 PM
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Get a couple of dredges on both ends (four on each) to pump the sand, pump it 100's of yards inland, far enough to allow only a trickle of water (and sand) to return to the canal.

Its incredibile how much they can move in a relatively short period of time.

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What they are costing to shipping world wide, screw that boat, , , ,

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