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Old 04-25-2021, 01:10 PM
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David ;

I think that was husky man's initial point, lost in his usual paranoid dissembling .

Even calling it 'Driver Assist' is a bad idea because some folks are going to mis use it .

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Old 04-26-2021, 09:55 AM
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I do not understand the point of the auto plot stuff on the Tesla and other high end cars. The way I see it, since these systems are not fully autonomous, they should not be in the car. It s a big jump to go from driver assistance aids like lane tracking, collision avoidance, smart cruise control ... etc to a auto pilot. The name alone I think gives a false sense of security to people. Most people do not read directions so the few disclaimers that come on the screen will certainly be ignored. People see auto pilot and they think, Oh... I think my phone is in my bag on the back seat...let me turn around look for it for a few min... the car will drive. I think these aids are not ready for the drivers of the US or vice versa.

News flash: There are more than a few lawyers fixing to light up Tesla over this issue as I write this. Auto pilot in an aircraft is far different than auto-pilot in a car. We don't have the necessary magnetic/radio sensors buried in the road beds to make auto-pilot a reality. It was a stupid idea from the beginning, but then having no engine up front to protect occupants in the event of a crash wasn't too bright, either. Apparently, there have also been issues with the brake lights operating correctly. All for $70K.........get 'em while their HOT!!
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Old 04-26-2021, 11:14 AM
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News flash: There are more than a few lawyers fixing to light up Tesla over this issue as I write this. Auto pilot in an aircraft is far different than auto-pilot in a car. We don't have the necessary magnetic/radio sensors buried in the road beds to make auto-pilot a reality. It was a stupid idea from the beginning, but then having no engine up front to protect occupants in the event of a crash wasn't too bright, either. Apparently, there have also been issues with the brake lights operating correctly. All for $70K.........get 'em while their HOT!!
Still going with the ignorant and false engine narrative huh.

I suspect Tesla is covered. They have numerous disclaimers upon start up and it is difficult to protect people from their own ignorance. The auto pilot performs as they designed it. It is not intended to be fully autonomous.

Be that as it may, people are too stupid to use it and if they want to die that is their prerogative, taking me out in their suicide attempt is not.
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Old 04-26-2021, 01:34 PM
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Still going with the ignorant and false engine narrative huh.

I suspect Tesla is covered. They have numerous disclaimers upon start up and it is difficult to protect people from their own ignorance. The auto pilot performs as they designed it. It is not intended to be fully autonomous.

Be that as it may, people are too stupid to use it and if they want to die that is their prerogative, taking me out in their suicide attempt is not.

Your failure to see the advantage of having a heavy engine (diesel preferred due to larger weight, Ford 7.3 power stroke diesel engine weight = approx 1050 pounds, mercedes 617 turbo diesel engine weight = approx 500 pounds) up front versus NOTHING except a tooth brush up front is astounding.

Back to physics class you go!!!

Your statement highlighted in bold above; this is the problem, those auto-pilot driving, texting, riding in the back seat Tesla drivers are out on the roads RIGHT NOW. Their mere presence is a safety hazard to the rest of us who are insured, wearing our seat belts, not listening to the radio, smart phones are OFF drivers.

Get it???

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Old 04-26-2021, 02:49 PM
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We get that you don't care about truth or facts husky man, that's the critcal thing here .

Without your bull$#itting this would have been a relevant thread .

Instead, you go off on yet another dishonest, lying paranoid rant and miss the entire point .
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Yeah, I'm lying about the physical advantage of having a 500 to 1000 pound diesel engine up front versus having hot air up front in the event of a head-on collision.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:20 PM
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Your failure to see the advantage of having a heavy engine (diesel preferred due to larger weight, Ford 7.3 power stroke diesel engine weight = approx 1050 pounds, mercedes 617 turbo diesel engine weight = approx 500 pounds) up front versus NOTHING except a tooth brush up front is astounding.

Back to physics class you go!!!

Your statement highlighted in bold above; this is the problem, those auto-pilot driving, texting, riding in the back seat Tesla drivers are out on the roads RIGHT NOW. Their mere presence is a safety hazard to the rest of us who are insured, wearing our seat belts, not listening to the radio, smart phones are OFF drivers.

Get it???
Cars are designed to get the engine out of the way. A non collapsible structure (engine block) coming through a fire wall will cause injury or death. Cars are designed this way for a reason. I already provided one link to substantiate this. Feel free to post your own source saying that an engine is part of the safety structure of a car. We will wait.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm lying about the physical advantage of having a 500 to 1000 pound diesel engine up front versus having hot air up front in the event of a head-on collision.
Yes, you are. You are just to ignorant to realize it.

https://youtu.be/qBDyeWofcLY

Car safety is based on the strength of the passenger compartment and the effectiveness of the crumple zone. The existence of the crime zone alone negated your engine theory as the crumple zone goes back farther than the engine.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I'm lying about the physical advantage of having a 500 to 1000 pound diesel engine up front versus having hot air up front in the event of a head-on collision.
is willful ignorance considered lying?
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Old 04-26-2021, 10:56 PM
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husky man, go look up "Incel" and then look in the mirror, you're the reason for this word .

Yes, you're lying and have been caught out so many times....
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Old 04-27-2021, 09:52 AM
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Here Husky.... crumple zones explained.
https://youtu.be/glcDR3cNQlQ

'59 Bel Air vs 09 Malibu
https://youtu.be/C_r5UJrxcck

F250 vs Focus
https://youtu.be/A9rNLnRczZg
This video proves one of your lies....the truck driver would not have walked away without a seat belt on. And yes, the people in the truck faired better due to the size/mass of the truck not due to the engine.

https://youtu.be/oF90lUJvEm4
Go to the 3 min mark to see what happens to the engine in a 2019 Chevrolet Silverado / GMC Sierra 2500 HD Head on collision. Spoiler alert....the engine moves back Ooopppsss
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Old 04-27-2021, 11:34 AM
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Your failure to see the advantage of having a heavy engine (diesel preferred due to larger weight, Ford 7.3 power stroke diesel engine weight = approx 1050 pounds, mercedes 617 turbo diesel engine weight = approx 500 pounds) up front versus NOTHING except a tooth brush up front is astounding.

Back to physics class you go!!!

Your statement highlighted in bold above; this is the problem, those auto-pilot driving, texting, riding in the back seat Tesla drivers are out on the roads RIGHT NOW. Their mere presence is a safety hazard to the rest of us who are insured, wearing our seat belts, not listening to the radio, smart phones are OFF drivers.

Get it???
You are running down a sidewalk and you have no choice but to hit an object in front of you. There is some good news, however, in that you can choose one of the two following objects to run into:

1. The iron engine block of a 7.3 liter Ford diesel; or

2. A cardboard box, shaped and corrugated to resemble the bellows of an accordion.

Your choice? Why?
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:54 AM
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All this "Tesla auto piloting" has given rise to a whole lotta "driving while texting". At least 1 in 5 drivers that I see out on the roads every day are looking and operating a smart phone with one or both hands while the car, SUV or truck they are operating drives itself at double the posted speed limit.
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:43 AM
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Red face Nice Try....

At obfuscating husky man .
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Old 04-28-2021, 11:19 AM
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All this "Tesla auto piloting" has given rise to a whole lotta "driving while texting". At least 1 in 5 drivers that I see out on the roads every day are looking and operating a smart phone with one or both hands while the car, SUV or truck they are operating drives itself at double the posted speed limit.
Tesla has nothing to do with the actions people behind the wheel.

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