What are your opinions on this?
Personally, I tend to see BMW as more nimble and sexier.

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Reliability of a BMW can't hold a candle to a MB. Once they get past 120k miles the cooling system plastic starts to fail then there is that hi dollar electric water pump that dies anytime after about 150k miles. Dont even get me started with what I think about the computer controlled oil pump. Now with that said I do a lot of BMW repair work.

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Prior to 1999 no. After that I don't care as all new cars are meaningless to me.

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BWM as of late seems to have huge engine reliability issues. Plastic bits in their engine start to fail. Parts.are cheap but labor to get to them can be very costly.

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Both bmw and mercedes have gone to shlt. Plastic oil pans, plastic thermostats, plastic water pumps, single row timing chains etc. How come toyota or Honda can use an aluminum oil pan on a $20k car but bmw and MB use a plastic oil pan on a $50k car? I've owned and enjoyed both bmws and MBs but I'm done. Everything after the n52 and m112/m113 is more trouble than it's worth. I don't think I'l be buying any more internal combustion cars after I'm through with my current crop.

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Plastic parts don't bother me if they are of a high quality.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Sometimes the plastic parts cost more. They are used for the noise level supression.

There's no plastic that survives on an engine past 100k miles without leaking.
They are used because they're cheaper than aluminum castings. There's now with thriving aftermarket for aluminum oil pans to replace the plastic factory plastic pans.

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They have no place on an engine. They are used because they are lighter and cheaper. They will never last as long as metal parts. Their incorporation in a Mercedes Engine is proof that the company no longer cares about longevity. Compare and OM61X with anything they make now. Literal proof of the cliche "they don't make em like they used to".

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Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

MB and BMW have basically turned into lifestyle brands. I'm still a sucker for some older models but I'm not buying anything new.

I asked this in a design meeting. I was told the plastic part was more expensive.