The video will make you butt pucker just a bit.

https://youtube.com/shorts/tiPdyyfxw8g?feature=share

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More than a bit....

I thought I heard the words “Southwest abort” at one point, and nothing else about it. Just a little bit strange.

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Each aircraft in the other's blind spot .

That blue plane sure pinned the throttles .

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I had my volume off and did not realize there was ATC chatter on the video. Was not very clear so I found this one. Tower did ask SWA to abort and exit right when possible. SWA said negative. I guess they were already committed to take off.

I did some basic math and when the Tower said the Fedex was 3 miles out, someone should have asked if you really wanted SWA to take off. I timed it. At the 1:00 mark SWA is told that FedEx is 3 miles out and sure enough, 1 min later there is FedEx at the run way. I have been in plenty of flights. When then plane is stopped and waiting for clearance, it takes a min or so to pull on to the run way, line up, and throttle up the engines.

Sounds to me like the Tower definitely screwed up and SWA kind of screwed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjoDn8zQgb8

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Watching it again, I see that Southwest had already powered up in no uncertain terms for at least several seconds when the instruction “Southwest abort” was said. Not sure if they suddenly became aware of the plane just behind and above them and powered up harder, or if that’s normal takeoff procedure. There was some good fortune involved in that one.

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That's just insane. The tower issues the takeoff clearance and at the same time acknowledges there is a 767 on final approach 3NM short of the runway? At normal approach speeds that means the 767 will be at the runway threshold in about a minute. It might be OK to issue a landing clearance if the approaching aircraft was a small plane approaching at 65 knots but no way in the world for a 767.

The controller screwed up big-time. From the video it kind of seems like the Southwest pilot should have questioned the clearance since he should have been able to clearly a very large 767 getting bigger every second bearing down on the runway he's about to enter. A pilot in command isn't required to follow a control towers instructions if in his opinion the instruction puts his aircraft in danger. In my opinion the Southwest pilot should have realized he'd just been given a dangerous clearance and should have rejected the clearance.

The Fed-ex pilot seems to immediately realize there's something wrong and asks the tower if he's really cleared to land on 18L. The tower then confirms 'everything fine!!.... go ahead and land' Mistake #2 from the tower.

The abort command to the Southwest pilot wasn't from the tower, it was issued by the Fed-ex pilot when he realized he was going to run into the back of the 737 on the runway and elected to do a go-around. The tower finally realizes somethings wrong and issues a 'exit right when able command' ....but the 737 is clearly beyond takeoff rejection speed at that point and continues the takeoff.

Really bad.

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I was also curious why the SWA pilot would have agreed to take off. When he heard the FedEx was 3 miles out and knew that there was no way he was going to be off the ground before the 767 was crawling up his backside.

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They were just lucky. The FedEx pilot could see his situation evidenced by the gear coming up in an effort to gain air speed and get the heck out of there. Hard to imagine how he felt while it appeared to him to be an imminent collision. What the video did not show was what happened with the FedEx plane. With gear up he couldn’t have landed. He obviously went around, but I can only surmise that the 737 was gone, it was able to climb out of the way without much trouble. Those things will climb so fast. The SWA probably couldn’t abort without going off the end and if he had, the FedEx might not have been able to make it over him although he apparently thought he could since he called for the SWA abort and was cleaning it up in a hurry even though he was committed to the landing. The pilots get credit on this one IMHO. I think what both pilots had to work with was the massive amount of power under their throttles.

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Video link in #5 shows SWA going out and continuing while Fedex circled around to land.

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There are about five near miss, (some very near) disasters avoided in the last few months that the FAA is investigating in the US, and the incident in Hawaii where they only just managed to avoid the ocean by the skin of their teeth.

Unfortunately I fear it's only a matter of time before another disaster in the US airline industry.

And that's not to mention all the lithium ion batteries in consumer devies on board aircraft now. Spirit Airlines just avoided a disaster when one caught fire in an overhead bin.

Pilot acquaintance of mine who files for American is about to retire and says he will not fly in the US again. If he has to go anywhere he will drive or take a train if possible.

And internationally he will take a slow boat.

- Peter.

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Very insightful. I bet when the NTSB looks into (I think that's who will look into it) they will come up with pretty much the same thing: A disaster that was avoided by pilots who knew what had to be done.