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Old 11-21-2002, 02:31 AM
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Old 11-21-2002, 10:15 AM
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Legally, this should have been settled under the "Lemon" law...
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Old 11-21-2002, 11:32 AM
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......I'd like to see the documentation for the 'out of pocket' expenses in excess of $100,000.00. Hell, his car didn't cost that much!

Not saying he hasn't had problems, but it is obvious he has a major chip on his shoulder and wants to bleed MB for whatever he can get.
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Old 11-21-2002, 11:42 AM
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This guy has obviously had a duff car. What I don't understand is why Mercedes-Benz has not done whatever it reasonably takes to make him happy.

Either their customer service is truly hopeless or he is not being reasonable in his demands.

Why doesn't he simply reject the car and demand his money back? Looks like he'd have a cast iron case. I'd be disappointed to hear that he wants punative damages of $5million; if he's being that greedy he desrves to have the car fail on him!
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Hey! I never said he was after $5million. But the only explanation why MB haven't been able to deal with him is that he must be making unreasonable demands.
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Old 11-21-2002, 03:18 PM
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......I'd like to see the documentation for the 'out of pocket' expenses in excess of $100,000.00. Hell, his car didn't cost that much!

Not saying he hasn't had problems, but it is obvious he has a major chip on his shoulder and wants to bleed MB for whatever he can get.
He's defining rather loosely the $100,000 in expenses. He is including rental car fees, lost time at work, lost business, etc.

If his car is new and under warranty, he would normally be given the use of a loaner car. Why is he renting a car?
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Old 11-21-2002, 04:28 PM
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Showing these captions with no details certainly doesn't make his point look valid. Personally it sounds to me like he's trying to get some free money from MB.

If he's serious about these issues he needs to list the exact problem in detail, the steps taken by the dealer to correct it, the dates it was brought in for service and how many days the customer was without a vehicle. Then others can reference the site for similar problems with their cars to possibly create a class action suit.

I'm sure MB has seen the website, if they felt it could potentially harm them they would have put an end to this already. Unless of course the guy has rediculous demands.
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Old 11-21-2002, 04:36 PM
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Legally, this should have been settled under the "Lemon" law...
I doubt he got it new because he shoudln't have spent anything for warranty work. My sense is that this car is a theft recovery patched together for a quick sale.

He's been in touch with lawyers and this hasn't gone to court? We're not hearing the other side of this story.

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Old 11-21-2002, 04:47 PM
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....can you imagine being the spouse of this guy???

My soup is cold. I'm going to picket the neighborhood!

IS THIS A DIRTY SOCK? I WANT A DIVORCE!!
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Old 11-21-2002, 05:13 PM
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I went to the website and it looks like it's a 02-03 C class that's he's complaining about.
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Old 11-21-2002, 05:38 PM
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It's tough to overlook his angry tone, and attribute some of the problem to the author.

Remember, he's very frustrated, and has seen little help from his dealer or MB in correcting the situation. I don't blame him for being mad. I would too.

However, he needs to take the following steps:

1. Change the tone of the website. Get rid of the emotional responses.

2. Have someone proof the website. His poor grammar and spelling didn't help me to take him seriously.

3. Stop talking about incidental damages on the website. The $100,000 lost expenses discussion immediately makes you wonder. Talk about the horrific loss of time, but stop making huge dollar claims to it. Do so in a lawsuit, if it comes to that, but NOT on the website.

4. Provide better documentation on the website. I read the "service history" page, and was disapointed. It has no dates or mileages. It has no list of parts replaced or information of what steps have been taken to repair the car. It's tough for me to jump into his boat without that info.

"misinformed about my brake pad condition which almost caused an accident.

Huh? Please explain. Truth be told, it sounds like he's jazzing it up a bit, and that's not good. Won't get him anywhere.

I feel for the guy, no doubt, but he'll get less than zero from MB with his current tactics...
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Plus, I'm a little surprised that he's having trouble at Fletcher Jones Mercedes, which has a pretty darn good reputation.

They are also the largest volume Mercedes dealer in the world.
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Old 11-21-2002, 05:49 PM
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I feel for the guy, no doubt, but he'll get less than zero from MB with his current tactics...
Right on target, John.

In fact, it appears as if he's also trying to market a service he has a financial interest in:



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.......I wouldn't hire these guys, using these sloppy tactics.....
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Old 11-21-2002, 06:56 PM
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Plus, I'm a little surprised that he's having trouble at Fletcher Jones Mercedes, which has a pretty darn good reputation.

They are also the largest volume Mercedes dealer in the world.
Well....I Had a Lemon law Case on My EX ML..Fletcher Was of NO HELP re the case...could not fix the POS.Went to a Lawyer...
I Have a W210 wagon now...Much Better!

FLETCHER JONES has a Very Poor Service Department!..The Managers Dont Care!My Wagon Has MORE LOT damage than Anyone I Know...Front Bumper hit,door dents, scratches,
I Got Screwed on a Rental car from Fletcher Jones!They Wanted to charge me for a rental when Mercedes pays The Dealer for It!I Know SEVERAL friends that have the Same results from Fletcher Jones...I Wont take any of My cars There!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But I Contacted Channel 2...Got Results...Thanks Bogey!
How Many Millions saw the Feature from Channel 2?

Bigger Is NOT BETTER....Just My .02
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Old 11-21-2002, 08:34 PM
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Thanks for your comments Mark. I think I'll stay away from Fletcher Jones.

I can't believe you actually got that old man Bogey to help you out.

Did he actually run a segment with you in it on TV?

That's pretty coooool...

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