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Old 09-05-2003, 12:11 PM
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Isn't it ironic?

Disclaimer: I am a patriotic free thinking non politically affiliated American who disagrees with this big spending, special interest pandering administration. When I say administration, I am not referring to the Republican party, because as I understand it, Republicans are for small government and protecting civil rights.

I find it awfully embarassing that we are now in a position that we have to go to the UN for help. The organization that the administration threatened would become irrelevant if it didn't authorize the invasion of Iraq, is now being asked to assist us in cleaning up what we have wrought there. Saddam is a bad guy, but if we weren't in such an all fired hurry to go ff half cocked and invade, maybe we could have sone a better job and not have created a lawless terrorist no man's land. Which is better? A merciless brutal dictatorship or a chaotic land that attracts terrorists from all over the world filled with illegal arms. Zero sum gain in my opinion.

Here's an excerpt from an article from some guy in Salon (?) named Gary Kamiya. Its too happy about our current situation for my taste, but that doesn't make it any less impactful. It'll probably make MikeMover and Piotr's heads explode (i.e. they really won't like it).

"Would you like some freedom fries with your crow, Mr. President?"

"Let me make sure I've got this right. After being insulted, belittled and called irrelevant by the swaggering machos in the Bush administration, the United Nations is now supposed to step forward to supply cannon fodder for America's disastrous Iraq occupation -- while the U.S. continues to run the show?

"In other words, the rest of the world is to send its troops to get killed so that a U.S. president it fears and despises can take the credit for an invasion it bitterly opposed.

"The rest of the world may be crazy, but it ain't stupid.

"The Bush administration's humiliating announcement that it wants the U.N. to bail it out officially confers the title of 'debacle' upon the grand Cheney-Rove-Wolfowitz adventure. Not even the world-class chutzpah of this administration can conceal the fact that by turning to the despised world body, it is eating a heaping plate of crow. This spectacle may give Bush-bashers from London to Jakarta a happy jolt of schadenfreude, but it does nothing to help Americans who are stuck with the ugly fallout of the Bush team's ill-conceived, absurdly overoptimistic attempt to redraw the Middle East.

"The bitter truth is that everything the administration told us about Iraq has turned out to be false."

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Old 09-05-2003, 07:41 PM
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Bomb the lot of them: everyone East of the English channel, all the way to China. they're all worthless, scrounging troublemakers and we could do with their oil. I've got no idea why the West lets the Arab world keep all that oil: what do they do with it? Hold the West to economic ransom and waste the profits on solid gold toilets and torture chambers for anyone who dares dissent. If George W really is listening: warm up the Nukes, that's what I say (and don't take any ***** from Tony Blair).
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Old 09-05-2003, 08:25 PM
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I'd start with everyone east of the East Coast of the United States - wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned. Never thought much of those who live outside the USA - they just don't matter.
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Old 09-05-2003, 08:48 PM
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BTW - what ever became of the "Neutron" Bomb? Woundn't want to destroy any cool material possesions - sure there are a lot of nice cars "over there" - Would really help bring down the cost of things being that there would be so many fewer people to compete against - I'm liking this idea more and more! Maybe I CAN have a Ferrari after all!
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Old 09-06-2003, 01:34 AM
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ERRR, I actually agree. We still do not need UN, It's a BAD, bad idea. The best proof that I'm right (as always ) is that Howard "Nikita" Dean wants to give everything to UN. I have a better plan- lets start bombing WEST- of the rockies. When we get rid of that dead albatross around our necks (Kalifornia) lets go to N Korea, China, and then Far East. Then, let's jump to Germany (again) and finish up with France. Get rid of dead wood. I'd say in 1 week the World would be a better place.

Anyway, I think it's obvious that planning for post War Iraq was horrendous. Let's fix it by taking our gloves off with pro Saddam, Pro Syria, and pro France/Un crowd.

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