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mikemover · #1 02-08-2004, 11:31 AM

You knew there was no way John F. Kerry was going to stay lily-white forever. Now it's time for the front-runner to get the scrutiny. If the Kerry campaign thought they were blindsided by the Botox rumors, then they had better get ready. First up: a charge that Kerry blocked legislation before the Senate in exchange for contributions from a big insurance company. This makes Halliburton look like a bike ride.

It seems back in 2000, the junior Senator from Massachusetts blocked legislation so he could keep open a loophole allowing AIG (the big insurance company) to divert millions from the nation's most expensive construction project. Turns out in 1999, a Transportation Department investigation found that AIG was overpaid $129.8 million for worker's compensation and insurance on "The Big Dig" in Boston that was not needed. Outraged at these findings, Senator John McCain proposed legislation stripping $150 million from the project and banning the future practice of such hijinks. But then Kerry intervened and got McCain to settle for a hearing instead, where the issue died. Boy, when a big campaign contributor needs a favor, this guy really steps up.

How was Kerry rewarded for his actions? We should all be so lucky. AIG paid Kerry's way on a trip to Vermont. They donated $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives also donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns. And on and on. Stinks to high heaven, doesn't it?

Of course, the Democrats' golden boy denies all this. According to his campaign spokeswoman: "John Kerry has long supported getting special interest money out of the political system." Yeah right. What a load. Imagine all the other sleazy tidbits we're going to find out in the coming months.

It's going to be a great year. I can hardly stand it.

--excerpted from boortz.com

Mike

Honus · #2 02-09-2004, 12:18 AM

So far, all you and Botnst have come up with against Kerry is a really weak Newsmax article and now this AIG thing. I have only recently started paying attention to Kerry so I can't vouch for him, but if this is what you guys consider to be the skeletons in his closet, then I am starting to feel better about next fall. Kerry does have some vulnerability in that he cozied up to lots of special interests, but if your description is the best Boortz could do to spin the AIG story, then all it really looks like is a Senator stepping in to prevent the biggest construction project his state ever had from losing $150 million and then getting some goodies for his trouble. Sure it stinks, but haven't the Repubs done the same thing a million times?

Mike, please don't freak out on me. I am not in favor of graft, but I just don't see this story going very far.

mikemover · #3 02-09-2004, 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by dculkin

Mike, please don't freak out on me. I am not in favor of graft, but I just don't see this story going very far.

Of course it's not going to go very far...the mainstream liberal media doesn't want to tarnish the image of one of their "darling" candidates!

Mike

Zeitgeist · #4 02-09-2004, 12:53 AM

Would that be the same "liberal" media that's just now discovering W's less than stellar AWOL military record, or his oh so ironic mis-interpretation of the on again, off again, then way off again Iraq war intelligence?

What "liberal" media sources are you referring to? I think you're shadow-boxing again...

mikemover · #5 02-09-2004, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Would that be the same "liberal" media that's just now discovering W's less than stellar AWOL military record, or his oh so ironic mis-interpretation of the on again, off again, then way off again Iraq war intelligence?

What "liberal" media sources are you referring to? I think you're shadow-boxing again...

And I think YOU are falling victim to the Dems' propaganda, because Bush was not ever AWOL, and received an early honorable discharge after his service.

Further debate on the intelligence, and the quality and believeability thereof, seems pointless to me until more details surface, if they ever do. I'm getting to the point that I don't even care, because it is just turing into a finger-pointing and a$$-covering party....Saddam is in custody, so the end result was good, and I'm OK with that for now.

Mike

TN-W124 Diesel · #6 02-09-2004, 08:13 AM

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

TN-W124 Diesel · #7 02-09-2004, 09:23 AM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074369/posts

Honus · #8 02-09-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by mikemover
Of course it's not going to go very far...the mainstream liberal media doesn't want to tarnish the image of one of their "darling" candidates!

Mike

I guess that is why Bill and Hillary Clinton never got any bad press. And Al Gore, boy, the press was really careful to check the facts before they said anything bad about him.

Honus · #9 02-09-2004, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by mikemover
...Further debate on the intelligence, and the quality and believeability thereof, seems pointless to me until more details surface, if they ever do. I'm getting to the point that I don't even care, because it is just turing into a finger-pointing and a$$-covering party....
Mike

On that we agree. The problem is that it only goes one way. If we were being fair, people would stop saying that Bush is a straight shooter (or plain speaker, I love that) unless they can explain why he says things like he did last October when he said that Saddam and al Qaida were allies. Is there any reason, at all, to think that there is a shred of truth to that statement? If the federal government can come to a halt when Bill Clinton denies having sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinski, then I think we are entitled to a break from all this hew-haw (how do you like that word?) about Bush bringing honor back to the Oval Office.

TN-W124 Diesel · #10 02-09-2004, 10:40 AM

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/392006.html

#11 02-09-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by dculkin
On that we agree. The problem is that it only goes one way. If we were being fair, people would stop saying that Bush is a straight shooter (or plain speaker, I love that) unless they can explain why he says things like he did last October when he said that Saddam and al Qaida were allies. Is there any reason, at all, to think that there is a shred of truth to that statement? If the federal government can come to a halt when Bill Clinton denies having sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinski, then I think we are entitled to a break from all this hew-haw (how do you like that word?) about Bush bringing honor back to the Oval Office.

Here's a shred.

U.S. Says Files Seek Qaeda Aid in Iraq Conflict
By DEXTER FILKINS

Published: February 9, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Feb. 8 — American officials here have obtained a detailed proposal that they conclude was written by an operative in Iraq to senior leaders of Al Qaeda, asking for help to wage a "sectarian war" in Iraq in the next months.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/09/international/middleeast/09INTE.html?ex=1076907600&en=84c5cf739273755b&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

TN-W124 Diesel · #12 02-09-2004, 01:22 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074482/posts

Botnst · #13 02-09-2004, 01:23 PM

MedMech, after hearing a tirade from Al Gore just now, it occured to me that the Patton quote of yours could apply to Al: I'd rather have Osama in front than Gore behind.

What an idiot is Gore.

TN-W124 Diesel · #14 02-09-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Botnst
MedMech, after hearing a tirade from Al Gore just now, it occured to me that the Patton quote of yours could apply to Al: I'd rather have Osama in front than Gore behind.

What an idiot is Gore.

Dean Admits Gore Gave 'Kiss of Death'

Howard Dean is not the only big loser as a result of the Democratic primaries.

The other loser wasn't even in the race: Al Gore.

But now top pundits say Gore's endorsement of Dean may have ended any future possibility the former vice president has of returning to the White House.

And even Dean says the Gore endorsement was the turning point for his campaign.

Dean told Bob Woodward on CNN’s "Larry King Live" that the Gore endorsement in early December started his free-fall decline. "I actually do think the endorsement of Al Gore began the decline," Dr. Dean told Woodward.

Dean quickly added that Gore's endorsement so worried the other Democratic candidates and the establishment wing of the party that the attacks on him reached a fever pitch.

"The establishment in Washington really realized that I might be the nominee and they did not like it," Dr. Dean concluded.

Gore's misjudgment may have cost him any chance of getting the Democratic nomination in 2008 – if a Democrat doesn't win this year.

He is also becoming the butt of jokes. Bob Dole said he has advised the Kerry and Edwards campaigns that if Gore calls them, they should not return the phone call.

"I suppose people are going to be running away from Al Gore the way the devil runs away from holy water," Paul Begala, a former Clinton aide, told the New York Times.

Botnst · #15 02-09-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by PaulC
I just saw Kerry at a big Demo fund raiser last evening:

Paul strikes again!