According to CNN (who had to sue to get the documents,) FLorida's list of purged voters who were previous felons not eligible to vote contained only 50 Latinos out of 47,000 purged names. (less than 0.1 of one percent)

The voter list was created by crossing felon and voter names statewide. The Secretary of state refused to release the list and only did so after the news network went to court.

THe amazing fact CNN reported that in a state where hispanic surnames and Cubans make up about 20% of the population. As we all know, Cubans vote over 90% for Republicans. So the Jeb Bush cabal continues to disenfranchise Blacks and franchise Cubans.

They're starting early to steal the election. FIrst it was a trial ballon about postponing elections and now just outright fraud.

Moreoeover, there are serious logistical problems with the military absentee ballot system that is close to collapse. See the site intel-dump.com

I think I'll go see Farenheit 9/11 again. (sigh)

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Interesting and worthwhile blog. The link: www.intel-dump.com

Those Bush people are amazingly devious, huh? On the one hand they disenfranchise military voters--almost always voters that support the Repos and at the same time protect another set of voters who vote Republican. I suspect the nefarious hand of Dick Chaney behind the plot.

OTOH, it could be your typical gov screw-up.

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well, gulf war 2 has already killed more US citizens than the voting margin in fla during the last election, so maybe he's just being honest and evening the playing field.

aren't there independent 3rd party election monitors available for suspect elections? oh, wait... that's the UN, and letting them oversee us would be tantamount to surrendering sovereignty- somehow different from our insistence on them monitoring all manner of 3rd world elections. good old goose/gander inequity.

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We should take elections out of the citizen's hands and turn it over to an international agency. That way if the election is screwed-up we wont have anybody to blame, nobody to kick out of office and we can just do what we're told.

Why not invite somebody above reproach and totally objective like Jimmy Carter?
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Posted by Botnst: Those Bush people are amazingly devious, huh? On the one hand they disenfranchise military voters--almost always voters that support the Repos and at the same time protect another set of voters who vote Republican. I suspect the nefarious hand of Dick Chaney behind the plot.

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Didn't you miss the point? One of the many problems in the 2000 vote in FL was that military ballots that had arrived well after the deadline date were allowed, while numerous African-Americans had been incorrectly scrubbed from the rolls by this outside company that had been hired by the state government.

This reference to the military ballot system being near collapse could mean many things, one of which is that military (generally, pro Bush) ballots might again find their way into the count, even if they do not qualify by the rules. In other words, since they got away with stuffing the ballot box with illegitimate military ballots in 2000, they may be ready to ignore the rules again. At least, that's one interpretation.

Joe B.

Whether military voters will support him as they did in the past is open to question.

If was active duty now, hit by a 'stop loss' directive, and I was kept beyond my retirement date due to the ineptness of the DoD, I sure as hell would'nt vote for the people who caused this...

I think that the military logistical backlog (dealing with 50 states ballots, and the fact that they have to be cancelled by the APO or FPO) could have been foreseen and acted upon, but that process was probably privatised and Halliburton has the mail contract now.

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monitoring is not equal to 'turn over to' elections around the world have this extra check/balance and it's not perfect, but 3 entities watching is more likely to see something fishy than just 2... and maybe even fix it. are non-citizens more or less likely to inject their political intents on an election that does not have an effect on them? dunno. Doubtless if W was called out on any improprieties, he'd assert the sovereignty of the US and how we're not beholden to anyone and MISS THE POINT COMPLETELY! to be fair, Kerry would probably do the same thing. but maybe some sort of 3rd party monitoring could diminish the impact of the mega bucks/power influences all of our politicians have these days...
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you got any ideas? or just criticism?

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The military ballot issue has been a problem since I can remember--it was a problem when I voted in Navy. Probably Bush caused it when he was missing from his unit. That guy is amazing.

So long as the ballot counters count all of the ballots, not just those that favor a particular outcome like Algore tried to do, the election will be okay.

You're right Bot but in 2000 Florida definitely disenfranchised a disproportionate amount of black voters. What I can't understand is how something that seems rather easy to remedy by you or I hasn't been rectified in 3 1/2 years.
That in itself IMHO points out that the powers that be don't really care to make the necessary changes to guarantee the results you and I both agree on. Sound redundant? Maybe I can work for the government?

Recall that the infamous ballot was devised by a Democrat.

The voter purging is legal and doesn't prevent voting by improperly challenged voters. You can vote by affidavit and your vote will count.

I don't know why the military ballot issue hasn't been fixed in the nearly 40-years since I was in the Navy. How can it be that hard.

Concerning the Navy, when you're at sea you can mail things every day but it only goes out when mail gets transferred.

I think the ballot challenge to military ballots was that many of them off of several ships at sea were not properly canceled by the ship's mail clerks. That isn't SOP, but if you ever get FPO or APO mail you'll notice that often it isn't canceled. Lets call for courts martial of mail clerks.

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Lets call for courts martial of mail clerks.

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Why not beheadings? Is that in poor taste

Not in New Guinea.