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Draining 300D fuel tank
Am I stupid and blind? Hope so LOL.
I'm so blind I can't find a drain bolt on my 1983 300D fuel tank, and I'm so stupid I can't find a mention of it in the manuel page either. Does it have one? What is the best way to drain it if not? I just want to start with fresh fuel in this thing and since its real low at the moment figured it would be good time to drain it.
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I don't believe they have a drain plug as such. Loosen the fuel line and pull it off , the fuel will drain then. Acually it is best to loosen the clamp on the at the other end from the tank. Should be a short line between the tank and the hard line. Then you car direct the fuel into the big bucket you have sitting there ready.
When the fuel is drained the rest of the line comes off and the screen unscews from the tank. As a note, most have found with the tank reading E, you may have more than 5 gals left in there. So be ready with enough containers so that you don't drown under the car. |
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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Found some drawings. Think I got it figured out.
Question. There is a sealing ring (gasket) on screen housing. Is this often reusable? If not will silicon seal it? What type silicon would be best? (blue, Black??)
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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I see new tag lines replace all old ones too.
Dont matter I guess. Back to regularly scheduled program: Silicon ok?
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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The ring sometimes is but not always, it only cost about $.50 but it is just remembering to purchase it in time. I'm not a huge silicone fan, nothing to add there. I haven't looked but there is one that has a fitting on one end to unsrew with a clamp on the other. The return line however I presume is a normal fuel line clamped on both ends.
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coachgeo,
that screen is aluminum looking and is a huge size socket... I went to my local Sears and bought a 1" drive with an adapter to 1/2" drive to get it out. WHen I pulled mine, the screen portion was clogged pretty heavily with dirt/grime/algae, etc. I would strongly recommend getting it out and cleaning it good.....yours like mine has probably never been changed in 20+ years of fuel, that's a bunch of time for stuff to accumulate. It's a piece of mind thing to me! Good luck! JMH |
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I'm just curious why you're draining the fuel. Unlike gasoline, diesel fuel is nothing but light oil and has an incredibly long "shelf life."
Happy New Year, |
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Besides it would remove a variable and maybe make it easier to diagnose what ever might be ailing my new to me 300D. Butttt..... even though it is 0.50 unless the indy.. has one Im stuck. No dealer here. Guess I'll just drain tank and not clean the screen yet. Will have it put back together in an few hours or less. Will start her up with the cleaned injectors, new filters and Injector bleed lines. Hopefully the knock will be gone.
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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While I do have a stealer about 45mins from my house I nearly never use them, I just try to plan ahead on all of my parts orders. Most of the time I'm alright but when I have stuff I never expected to break I end up waiting a week for parts.
As it is rather applicable here, if a person has that black algae in the tank and they use a algaecide will some still get stuck on the strainer or does it all pretty well break up on go through the system? My lines are coated with black crap and I had a huge glob of algae in my sending unit so I guess I'll algaecide the system.
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You didn't say how long it sat up, but I have sat up diesels for years with no fuel problems after putting back in service. If you suspect an algae problem, just dump in some biogard.
I put a Ford diesel tractor back in service this past summer that had sat for some five years. I put a fresh battery in, checked the oil and it started up after the starter rotated the engine less than one full turn. It was amazing. The tank was half empty, so I filled it up with fresh fuel and changed both fuel filters. Just because it sat up does not mean that you necessarily have an algae, or any other fuel contamination problem. As I said in my previous post, this stuff is not like gasoline. Happy New Year, |
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old prefilter was pretty black and gunky looking. Part of why I suspected mayyyyyybe algae.
well... rear hoses at the tank looked that messing with them to drain things might cause a brittle hose to start sucking air. This would then create another variable to try to diagnose around. Cause of this I dropped the idea and just added 5 gal to the tank. So far new OEM prefilter looks ok. but only few miles on her. I I see algae suspects I'll biocide it.
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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old prefilter was pretty black and gunky looking. Part of why I suspected mayyyyyybe algae.
well... rear hoses at the tank looked that messing with them to drain things might cause a brittle hose to start sucking air. This would then create another variable to try to diagnose around. Cause of this I dropped the idea and just added 5 gal to the tank. So far new OEM style prefilter looks ok. but only few miles on her. If I see algae suspects I'll biocide it. THANKS For all the suggestions.
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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Why not just replace the hoses then? $9ea for the "fitted fuel hose" If you feel a lack of power when the tank is almost empty then the strainer is nearly clogged and the IP is becoming starved of fuel.
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Jeff M. Mercedes W123 DIY pages are now located here. 1983 / 1984 300D Sold 2000 CLK430 Cabriolet ~58k Sold 2005 Avalanche 4x4 ~66k |
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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way". Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i] Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair -Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion -Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD |
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