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rjbodratti 07-31-2004 07:21 PM

400E running poorly
 
well, here are the symptoms -

> car starts and seems like it is running on only 7 cylinders - it
doesn't matter if the car is hot or cold when started. however,
there are times when it runs well, although more often than
not is runs poorly.
> rotors and caps replaced at mechanics suggestion - also
checked spark plug wires - could find no arcing
> if i put the car in drive and sit there with the brake on, the
problem is worse than just idling in park. in other words, its
worse when under load.
> just noticed this today - problem is aggravated by running
blower fan on high when ac is on. no problem when just using
the fan without the ac on - did not try heat to see if it does the
same.

can anyone shed some light on what the nature of this problem might be? would a bad alternator cause this to happen? could it be the wiring harness? thanks in advance for your help.

s60 07-31-2004 09:17 PM

When were the spark plugs changed last time? You might want to check if the spark plugs themselves need changing.

rjbodratti 07-31-2004 09:25 PM

the spark plugs were checked before we replaced the cap and rotors. they looked to be ok.

s60 08-01-2004 02:05 AM

Re: 400E running poorly
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rjbodratti
well, here are the symptoms -

> car starts and seems like it is running on only 7 cylinders - it
doesn't matter if the car is hot or cold when started. however,
there are times when it runs well, although more often than
not is runs poorly.
> rotors and caps replaced at mechanics suggestion - also
checked spark plug wires - could find no arcing
> if i put the car in drive and sit there with the brake on, the
problem is worse than just idling in park. in other words, its
worse when under load.
> just noticed this today - problem is aggravated by running
blower fan on high when ac is on. no problem when just using
the fan without the ac on - did not try heat to see if it does the
same.

can anyone shed some light on what the nature of this problem might be? would a bad alternator cause this to happen? could it be the wiring harness? thanks in advance for your help.

What exactly is the problem? It just does not go.

mercedesdoc 08-01-2004 11:38 AM

very comon that the coils are failing under load, Lots of problems with that in the 400e and 400s. Try replacind both coils. I would do and resistance test across coils. But I have seen so many do what you are explaining. Even though engine runs, the load can break down the spark

rjbodratti 08-01-2004 08:47 PM

thanks very much for the info - i will try replacing the coils and see what happens.

Rafi 08-02-2004 10:35 AM

Check fuel pressure at the rail
 
I had the same problem twice:
Once was due to bad spark plug connector on the pspark plug. The other time it was bad fuel back pressure regulator that sits on the fule rail for the injectors. You can change that if you do not have away to check the fuel pressure. The part is inexpensive.

rjbodratti 08-02-2004 10:49 AM

Thanks for the reply rafi - i will see first if the coils are shot, then check each spark plug wire to see if any of them are bad. it sounds more like an electrical issue than a fuel issue, although i haven't ruled out that possiblity yet.

Rafi 08-02-2004 01:16 PM

Yea, that is what I thought too but it was not the coil. I am willing to wager that it is not the coil.

rjbodratti 08-02-2004 09:58 PM

i guess i may try replacing the regulator first - it sounds as if it will be less expensive than replacing the coils. i guess it's just a process of elimination - i'll find it sooner or later - hopefully
sooner.
thanks again for your imput


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