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Old 11-06-2004, 12:57 PM
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missing a gear?

the 87 190e 2.6 i bought recently seems to be running awful high rpms at highway speed (3000 @ 62mph) is the over drive not engaging - is there a lock up torque converter on the car? i haven't got any manuals on the car yet
(last week i did notice the atf was low added 2 qts of redline synthetic) i only feel 2 shift points when in drive, should there be 3.
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Old 11-06-2004, 11:24 PM
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That's what 300Es and 300SEs with similar engines and transmissions run. 62mph at 3000rpm is too relaxed for 3rd gear either.

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Old 11-07-2004, 12:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure the 190 has the same transmission as the 124 series- there isn't an overdrive- it's 4-speed. Since you have an earlier model your transmission probably starts in 2nd, hence only 2 shifts: 2-3 & 3-4.
Mine I think runs around 3000-3500rpm at 70-80ish.
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Old 11-07-2004, 05:21 AM
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....[t]here isn't an overdrive- it's 4-speed. ..your transmission starts in 2nd, hence only 2 shifts: 2-3 & 3-4.
Exactly. Your top gear is 1:1, and it starts in 2nd gear.
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Old 11-07-2004, 09:33 AM
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The speedometer gearing is set up for the 849 revs/mile of the OE 185/65R-15 tires and the axle ratio is 3.27:1, so revs at 60 are 849 x 3.27 = 2776.

Tires with a different revs/mile spec will not effect this relationship, but they will impact speedometer accuracy, and as previously stated, the auto trans starts in second gear unless you floor the throttle. Fourth (top) gear is direct and there is no "overdrive".

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Old 11-07-2004, 11:26 AM
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The speedometer gearing is set up for the 849 revs/mile of the OE 185/65R-15 tires and the axle ratio is 3.27:1, so revs at 60 are 849 x 3.27 = 2776.
These revs would be applicable with a manual transmission with the rear wheels directly coupled to the engine.

However, in the case of an automatic, with a fluid coupling, the actual rpm at 60 mph is going to be 200-300 higher than 2776, and, hence the posted 3000 rpm figure.
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:06 PM
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thanks guys

thanks to all you guys you're helping me learn about this car alot
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Old 11-10-2004, 12:46 PM
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Wow

I didn't mean to open such a can of worms - thanks again guys!!
info and entertainment who 'da thunk it!
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