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rear trailing arm bushings in w124?
I've posted before regarding my dad's 300E and its rear camber problem. When looking from the back of the car, you can visibly see the wheels tilt in at the top. I've replaced all the rear control links minus the tie-rod looking one and the sway bar link, but they were in good condition. The wheel camber has changed just a little if any. I spoke with a mechanic at a local indie and he said to look at the rear arm. I can't remember what he called it, but he was talking about the largest arm on the bottom. Is that the trailing arm? It holds the spring, I know of that. Anyways, he thinks that bushing might be bad. If that bushing were bad, wouldn't it cause the wheels to tilt out at the top? It has worn through two used tires within a rather rapid time and it makes the car dangerous to drive in rain or even dry sometimes! So, has anyone replaced this bushing and do you think it will fix it? What tools are needed except the Klann Spring Compressor, (if anyone here has a compressor, I'll rent it from you, you name the terms of course). PM me if you'd like to rent yours out.
Thanks David
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_____________________________________________ 2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles 1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles _____________________________________________ |
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I just got on fastlane and looked at suspension pieces. Would the lower arm I'm speaking of be the torsion bar? They say the "torsion bar kit" has to be special ordered on the phone.
Thanks David
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I cannot comment on the W124, however the SDL is doing the exact same thing. I believe that the cause on the SDL is the fact that the springs are too old and too soft and the body is sitting about 1 1/2 inches lower than it should. When new springs raise the body, hopefully the wheels will stand more perpindicular to the pavement. We'll see.
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So, let me get this straight. Negative camber will cause the inside of the tire to wear? What part from fastlane would I order then for the rear control arm?
Thanks David
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_____________________________________________ 2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles 1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles _____________________________________________ |
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When these bushings go , they do not make the top of the tire go in, they make the bottom of the wheel go out, so the results is still neg camber..] along with improper rear toe] However, check them first because this is just one of many possibles for inside tire wear on 5 point link Benz suspension... |
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Two bushings, inner and outer, replace both. I'll have to look in the manual to see what the procedure for removing the spring is, you MAY be able to just lower it, but don't unless you know definitively. If they are really beaten up, the bottom of the tire may be half and inch or more further out than it should be, you will get quite a bit of wear.
You should be able to check by jacking the wheel clear of the ground and pushing/pulling on the bottom of the tire -- bad bushing will allow it to move. The bushings are cheap. Check the tie rod for looseness on the bushing (eccentric bolt) end and the ball joint. If the ball joint is bad, you need to replace the link, otherwise you can replace the inner end bushing. Peter
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1972 220D ?? miles 1988 300E 200,012 1987 300D Turbo killed 9/25/07, 275,000 miles 1985 Volvo 740 GLE Turobodiesel 218,000 1972 280 SE 4.5 165, 000 - It runs! |
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He is talking about the outer. lower control arm bushings.. they wear out and cause neg camber...
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