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Old 02-17-2005, 03:43 PM
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Gosh darn it!!!!! (Censored)

Well, I got my new OVP relay today, this new one had 2 red 10 amp fuses instead of one fuse, and it also had 2 more metal pins at the bottom, I swapped them out.............................. and...........







Nothing, the car still idles at 500 when in D gear........

Back to the drawing board.......


Lemme get a little more specific with my problem...

When cold, meaning engine is cold...... thermostat at minimum....
The car starts up, settles at 500 RPM.
If I tap the accelerator immedietly and raise the RPMs to 1000, then let go, the engine then surge down and up, sometimes it stalls, sometimes it evens out...

If I hold the pedal down and keep the RPMs at about 1000 for a few minutes, until the temp gauge reads 60 C.... the RPMs will almost always settle at 600.... then I can put it in drive and the RPMs lower to 500....

I have noticed that once I get the car at operating temp.. (80 C)
The idle RPM in drive is 700 to 800 RPM, and in drive it is 500 again....

Anybody with ideas.... I have heard about EHA adjusting, but I do not have a voltmeter and I dont even know where the EHA is, or what screw to turn?!?!!

I also got two new vaccum hoses, which I will change out pretty soon, see if I can find a leak in the vac system....
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:14 PM
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You have classic signs of vaccuum leaks. get a 6 pack, bright light and look at everything.
Probably multiple leaks
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:20 PM
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Rahulio,

Have you tested the coolant temp sensor?
It is the last sensor on top of the valve cover,back of the engine compartment. http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/wizard.jsp?partner=mercedesshop&clientid=mercedesshop&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&cookieid=1FX0MB1RS1GB0YO1R3&year=1989&make=MB&model=300-E-002&category=C&part=Water+Temp.+Sensor&appEngines=_any

You will need to buy a multimeter to troubleshoot this.
Only costs about $30.00 for a pretty good one.
To be most usefull for your car you will want to get one that has %duty setting, Ohm's setting, and 20Amps setting, as well as the usual Volts.

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Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831799&postcount=13
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831807&postcount=14

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Old 02-17-2005, 04:49 PM
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I asked this question earlier, but no response. How do you test this sensor with a VOM?
Mark
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
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I asked this question earlier, but no response. How do you test this sensor with a VOM?
Mark
What kind of car? ...and...
Is yours 2 pin or 4 pin?

If 2 pin you test for Ohm's across (either way and reverse to double check)
a 4 pin I would have to investigate.
Here are values for KE:
Water temp sensor for KE injection system
Temperature °C........Resistance kΩ
-20........................15.7
-10.........................9.2
0............................5.9
10...........................3.7
20...........................2.5
30...........................1.7
40...........................1.18
50...........................0.84
60...........................0.60
70...........................0.435
80...........................0.325
90...........................0.247
Same resistance values apply to KE intake air temp sensor.
I think this chart applies to these 2 sensors for all KE systems but don't know for sure.
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Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831799&postcount=13
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831807&postcount=14
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:29 PM
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My Bad!!!

Hey guys, this afternoon, after I came home from school, I found my box at my porch containing my new OVP, and 2 breather hoses....

I replaced the OVP immedietly and was disappointed to see no difference when I restarted the engine...

But I went back after the car's engine was cold, and guess what?!???

My surging, and 500 to 300 RPM idle is gone! It now idles like new at 900RPM...

BUT... since I tried it in the afternoon and it does not work, I have concluded that I got my cold start enrichment back!

I now suspect the coolant temp sensor... could this still be the culprit for the warm engine conditions? Thanks!
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