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ejsharp 02-23-2005 08:55 PM

Replacing Lower Ball joint 1993 190E
 
Do I have to remove the control arm from the vehicle and then remove the ball joint from the control arm or can I simply loosen the bolt that hold the ball joint and then somehow take out the ball joint from the suspension?

Thanks

mbdoc 02-24-2005 08:04 AM

The ball joint requires PRESSING both out & the new one in!

Gerard 02-24-2005 08:49 AM

I think its like the 124 arms. I was able to it without taking the arm off the car. I jacked up the car, removed the wheel, then lowered the arm onto a stable block. This will prevent the spring from shooting out and ruining your day. I also used an appropriately shaped piece of plywood as a shield in front of the spring if something unforeseen were to happen and if the spring were to come out it would stay safely behind the plywood.

I made a puller/pusher from M24 threaded bar and nuts and some hefty pieces of steel. If you dont have access to a lathe or welder then you may have to buy or rent an appropriate puller.

There is a bit of a grunt in fitting the strut botttom over the new ball joint, I loosened the strut top mount to help me with this.

Safety should be your primary concern in this job, but with a bit of planning it is relatively straight forward.

mctwin2kman 02-24-2005 08:55 AM

They need to be pressed out. I could not find a press that would work so I kinda did it with a few C Clamps, a pulley puller, a big hammer/mallet and a lot of swearing. Getting them in is the easy part, it is getting them out that sucks a$$.

89-300ce 02-24-2005 09:58 AM

I used a chain through the control arm and spring as a precaution and highly recommend this. When the control arm comes down there is very little holding the spring in. I used a 4x4 balljoint press to get mine out and back in. Worked great and quite inexpensive. I've since used it on another vehicle so it's more than paid for itself.

Jorg

ejsharp 02-24-2005 08:07 PM

I ordered a heavy duty ball joint remover from JC Whitney. It pulls the ball without destroying the rubber boot... or so I'm told. Now I need a tool to get the new one back in the socket. I hear Auto Zone lends them out. If not I have to figure something else out.

Thanks guys.

samiam4 02-24-2005 08:19 PM

You should have a spring compressor or chain the spring to keep things safe...


I've got a collar which makes the job pretty easy using the Autozone free ball joint press... I'd lend it out for some shipping and a 6 pack.

Or YOU CAN JUST HAVE ONE MADE. Find a machine shop(not automotive stuff), and measure up a sleeve- all they need is a piece of 4130 and a lathe. Tell them, no rush- cheap and on space avaliable.. don't want to pay $250/hr.

Michael

Phalcon51 02-24-2005 08:46 PM

samiam4,

Would you happen to have the dimensions of the sleeve that you made?

tangofox007 02-24-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejsharp
I ordered a heavy duty ball joint remover from JC Whitney. It pulls the ball without destroying the rubber boot... or so I'm told.

I suspect that this "remover" is actually a separator. It is used to "disconnect" the ball joint tapered stud. That is a completely separate process from removing the ball joint where it is press fit.

samiam4 02-24-2005 11:59 PM

Yep,

Let's see- cannot find my calipers...

The OD is 2.5, It's 2.25 ID on one side- about 1.2" deep. The other side is your ball joint OD (? 39.75mm). Make the whole thing 1.5" long. Very simple- especially if you can find a piece of scrape the right size. OD doesn't matter so much- you could use 2.75 or 3".

Michael

89-300ce 02-25-2005 10:29 AM

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You probably have item "K" which is a good tool if you need to re-use the ball joint/boot but if you are replacing them you can just use a pickle fork, items "L". What you need now is the ball joint press, item "P". I was able to do mine without an adapter but I will make one up for next time. Again, chain your spring to the control arm!!

Jorg

PS. prices are Cdn$


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