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Joreto 06-08-2005 08:37 AM

190E 2.5-16v timing chain tensioner install
 
I have a problem installing the timing chain tensioner after I installed the new timing chain. When I screwed the tensioner to the block it broke the new timing chain guide rail (the aluminium part) in two :mad: . I got a new guide rail which I installed but I'm afraid that if I screw the tensioner into the block all the way (if I don't oil leaks out) it will break the guide rail also. The tensioner is ok, when I press it at the front it retracts. I also unscrewed the hex bolt and took the spring out but even screwed like this (for a test) it looks like the tension on the guide rail is very high (with the front of the tensioner retracted all the way). What am I doing wrong ? What is the correct procedure for intalling the tensioner ?

thanks,
George


P.S. the new timing chain is exactly the same as the old one, there is no difference.

JimSmith 06-08-2005 09:24 PM

I am not familiar with any significant changes between the 2.5-16 and 2.3-16 engines in this particular area. I believe you should be able to reset the tensioner by disassembling it.

As I understand them, at some point they were changed to be a ratcheting type to avoid chain slap and other potential ills caused running, even if for only a few seconds, without any real tension on the chain while oil pressure builds during start up. If you have such a tensioner, it is feasible that when you took it out it was set to an extension needed to keep the old chain tight. With the new chain, you might have a tighter chain to start with and the tensioner was too far extended to work correctly. I believe it would have to be disassembled and then reassembled to reset the tensioner length to the "starting" position.

Others with more specific knowledge should pipe up. But if the chain fits, the tensioner should also fit. Jim

Joreto 06-09-2005 04:54 AM

JimSmith, thanks for the reply. My next question is how is the tensioner reset ?

JimSmith 06-09-2005 06:20 AM

I am not certain of this, but I believe you have to disassemble the unit. If you have one that is not the newer, ratcheting type, this is not your problem as they collapse when oil pressure is removed. Jim

Tinker 06-09-2005 09:36 AM

Reset the tensioner by pushing the piston through the body and reinserting it from the front to the first indent.

If your chain rails were original, I wouldn't be surprised they cracked. They become brittle due to the mileage and heat.

Tinker

Joreto 06-09-2005 11:52 PM

Tinker, the guid rail that cracked was brand new, maybe it was a defective cast. I'll try to reset the tensioner tomorrow, thank for your help guys :)

JimSmith 06-13-2005 01:34 PM

Did the tensioner go in ok? Just curious. Jim

Jim Herold 06-13-2005 02:10 PM

Check out my post at the following on this site: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=124206

What I describe relates to the upgraded timing chaining tensioner. If you can push in the end of your current tensioner and it retracts, I don't think you have the latest type.

Good Luck--Jim


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