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pastmaster 06-23-2007 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1544363)
Some might call it a piece of ****.

GANG!!! NO matter how it's spelled, you are in DEEP ****, whenever one of these V12's begins acting-up. Trying to analize the symptoms has to be a life-altering experience!

I want a V12, in the worst way. There is no one in my neck of the woods, that I know of, or that I can afford, to help me, keep one healthy. :behead:

You guys that own one and are happily motoring, BRAVERICHARD, Where are you? My compliments and admiration. :pleased:

Hatterasguy 06-23-2007 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by justinwrock (Post 1544384)
The V12 is a whole different machine, and its true that they are not for the faint of heart. Everything, from the suspension to the gearbox was reworked for these awesome machines.


Yes, they may be expensive (a rebuild for the M120 V12 at my indy mech. would cost over 3 grand, and that sensor for the ADS that comes standard on the V12 models may cost over 500 bucks), but I would get another one in a heart beat. That growl, that pull, and those insanely beautiful V12 badges make it simply irresistable!
$3k won't rebuild an M120, $3k might be enough to pay someone to take it apart.:D Add a zero....

iwrock 06-23-2007 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1544539)
$3k won't rebuild an M120, $3k might be enough to pay someone to take it apart.:D Add a zero....
Hattie, a MB M120 crate motor from the fatherland is around $26k.....



I was bored and at the dealer, and they pulled that out of the computer.

Hatterasguy 06-23-2007 11:48 PM
Yep so $30k to have it installed.:D If a crate motor is $26k, a long block is probably what? $18k-$20k? Figure a good rebuild is probably 70% of that.

The reason I am saying this is because a proper rebuild on a 617 runs about $3k if you watch your money, and thats just a little 5cy diesel. A set of cam's for the M120 must be like $2k.:D

mike420 06-27-2007 01:12 AM
Thanks for the reply Herb.Reason I was asking I noticed some fluid in the same vac line on my 92'.I am not seeing any signs of smoke out the back but that being said I would like to catch the problem before that happens.

t walgamuth 06-27-2007 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by justinwrock (Post 1544384)
The V12 is a whole different machine, and its true that they are not for the faint of heart. Everything, from the suspension to the gearbox was reworked for these awesome machines.


Yes, they may be expensive (a rebuild for the M120 V12 at my indy mech. would cost over 3 grand, and that sensor for the ADS that comes standard on the V12 models may cost over 500 bucks), but I would get another one in a heart beat. That growl, that pull, and those insanely beautiful V12 badges make it simply irresistable!
I have no experience with the v12 but I would say this....it is just two sixes on one crank. The problem once isolated to one bank should respond to all methods that would solve a problem with a six.

One thing I am sure of.... I would not have pulled heads to solve this problem. (easy to say now, right?)

Glad Herb got it fixed.

Tom W


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