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Old 07-29-2005, 09:58 PM
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%^#$@ Allen and his &#@!%$ wrenches!

That is all.

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Old 07-29-2005, 10:36 PM
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Was Allen related to Whitworth?
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:24 AM
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He's probably best friends with the guy that made the tensioner on the m103.


That JERK
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:45 AM
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And whats up with Torx???!!! Is he related to Allen in any way or just married into the family?
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:34 AM
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I'd have to say they're cousins G.
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:44 PM
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At least Whitworth was trying to standardize British fastener sizes when he came up with his system. The cross section of his wrenches allowed one to loosen stuck bolts without the damn thing twisting (as allen wrenches are prone to do). I have Whitworth, metric and standard sockets, wrenches and such. Makes for a bigger tool box, though.

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Old 07-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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most

of the times i have had trouble with allens is when i failed to clean out the socket in the top of the bolt. this prevents the allen from getting full bite and then you turn out the lands on the allen. another problem is when i have twisted the allen (allowing the shaft to be crooked in relationship to the bolt) while trying to turn.

i have a set of allen sockets for those tough ones. if you get full bite and you keep the allen straight then you should be able to twist it until it comes out. i cant remember ever breaking the head off one.

i have twisted allen wrenches, the L kind not the socket kind.

they use allens where it is tight for getting a socket in, i think.

good luck.

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Old 07-30-2005, 08:40 PM
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Heh. I was dealing with allens that had already been stripped out by whoever was there before. One, though, I doubt I could have gotten it anyhow. It's the one that holds the suction/discharge hose assembly to the compressor manifold. I got it (finally) with one of those Sears rounded-bolt sockets. Both hands on the foot-long ratchet handle and it was all I could do to break it loose. A hex-headed bolt went in that spot with room to spare.

It's not so much a space-saving measure. Allens, Torx, Robinsons, and such are easier for automated assembly-line machines to deal with.

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