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jgreek 11-02-2005 09:26 PM

My 83 SD is not timing right?
 
I took the valve cover off, and i alligned the timing slot on the chain, but i cannot turn the engine by hand. it seems that the chain is stuck. it turns 10-20 degrees either way, but she's not loose to go around. im thinking maybe the chain gets stuck at the bottom. any ideas?

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:27 PM

I hope you didn't turn it backwards.....

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:30 PM

i think i have. now what do i do?

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jgreek
i think i have. now what do i do?

the tensioner would take the full load rahter than take up slack and could jump time I believe...you are saying the engine is binding up?

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:34 PM

yes. With the chain in place, its binding. It's not going either way. it only moves a few degrees left and a few degrees right. and then it clicks and i don't want to force it or use the starter.

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jgreek
yes. With the chain in place, its binding. It's not going either way. it only moves a few degrees left and a few degrees right. and then it clicks and i don't want to force it or use the starter.

good idea don't force it at this point..sounds like it may have jumped time on you one tooth may be enough for valves to contact pistons..I've not had the timing chain out on this engine but hang in there someone who has will pick it up from here soon......

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:38 PM

any suggestions?

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:40 PM

Got to think about this one a bit....I'm thinking you may have broken the tensioner and its jaming it up.....

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:42 PM

no i took the tensioner out. i had it in and out many times. and it goes into place so i don't think its the tensioner

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jgreek
no i took the tensioner out. i had it in and out many times. and it goes into place so i don't think its the tensioner

the ears are still on it right? thats what breaks...

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:50 PM

what do you mean by the ears? nothing broke i didn't force anything. All i did was take the wheel off and move the chain around a little bit with the tensioner out. and then i put the chain back and the wheel back on top. but the engine is not turning, i tried it with the tensioner in and out and it still doesn't move. now what

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 09:54 PM

the ends.....supposedly thats what sometimes breads and drops inside.

Hmmmmm....is your crank at the tdc mark by any miricle?

jgreek 11-02-2005 09:57 PM

Yes i can put it there but the engine is not turning. it locks up.

boneheaddoctor 11-02-2005 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jgreek
Yes i can put it there but the engine is not turning. it locks up.

OK...with the crank on TDC can you determine if the cam is where it should be based on valve lift as per determining chain stretch? I bet its not where it should be but a tooth or more off.


On a side thought.....I hope its on the right stroke also...it could be on the wrong stroke.

jgreek 11-02-2005 10:03 PM

thats very possible. how do i fix it?


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