I changed the Water Pump on my 87 190D 2.5 and decided to go to Zerex from the PO's green Prestone. After about 3 days the radiator started to leak where the plastic meets the aluminum core.......OK, must be a its time......Replaced Rad, and it started leaking from Aux Pump and a couple of hose connections.......Hmmmmn, being the genius I am, I am begining to suspect that the New G05 fluid may me the cause......now, I am leaking Anti freeze into my drip pan I use to catch the oil from my leaky rear main seal (ANOTHER bad story). Question 1) Is there something about the Zerex product that can lead to this? 2) If my heater core is leaking, is there a drain that would dump the leaking fluid under the car as opposed to inside? What else could be leaking back there??? Damned puzzled and can't get under it until I am back in town........Any ideas? Thanks Scott

In my experience Dexcool is more prone to leak than IATs because Dexcool has no salts that can precipitate out to seal minor seeps.

There is no reason why G05 should immediately cause leaks if used to replace IAT.

Thus far I've replaced a leaking heater flow valve, leaky coolant level sensor, and a leaky aux. coolant pump. It just goes with the territory. So far my radiator is okay.

There is a plenun drain above the transmission where the coolant leaking from the heater flow valve dropped down, leaving residue on the transmission. A leaky heater core would probably drip from the same area.

Not too many have reported leaky heater cores, but the aux. coolant pump, heater flow valve, coolant level sensor, and snapped radiator nipples are relatively common. Sooner of later all these problems will happen to all of these cars.

Three down, one to go for me.

Duke

Perhaps that is why Zerex is nowhere to be found around here? I have been looking for it for my car to no avail. Maybe it was a good thing?

Just wondering - where did you even find it? Seems like it has vanished everywhere else.

Got mine from my local NAPA for $11.00.

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The volvo site has a sign up campaign for a class action suit against GM/DEXCOOL for similar problems discussed here. http://www.girardgibbs.com/dexcool.html

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I've never experienced any sludging with Dexcool and I've been using it in all my cars since '95, but am in the process of switching all but the MR2 to G-05.

GM claims in several TSBs that sludging and corrosion is the result of running with low coolant over extended time/mileage intervals. Apparently some of the components in Dexcool can oxidize if there is a lot of air in the system.

My opinion is that these Dexcool lawsuits have little merit.

Duke

I had the green stuff (Prestone) in my ol 450 sl 1977 for 5 years with no leaks same 5yr old green. No problems, just renewed with Prestone and again no problems! Still original radiator and water pump and heater core! I think that the propaganda on mercedes part to switch to their recommended product is over rated! I'll stick to green (with additives as needed). Just my opinion, Abe G

You probably had a lot of build up and crap in your system from the old coolant. Good thing everything is leaking now and not 500 miles from home on a trip.

If people just followed the two year changes MB recomends on these cars with the proper coolant a lot of these problems would be avoided. However for whatever reason they don't and ignore the cooling system for years until they start to have problems.

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..... well, probably. Nevertheless, I note that my daughter ran her Cavalier with low coolant quite often during the summer because of a tiny block leak (which btw a 'leak-stop tablet' fixed nicely) and wouldn't you know, I had to replace the leaking core in the fall. the car had about 150k km on it. Coincidence, possibly .... but maybe not

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Did you drain and flush before the changeover? Based on what i've read, mixing coolants would accelerate deterioration of those parts. It also explains why I have to replace the heater core, rad., and thermostat on my Volvo. The rad., and thermostat on my Mercedes. My coolant switch was from the green stuff to Dexcool.

These results are too much of a coincidence. Now, I've got Zerex and distilled water combo.

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Aluma-Seal. 99 cents at AutoZone.

Doesn't hurt nothing. In fact, it helps keep the water pump happy...kinda like how lead used to keep valve seats happy!

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When air gets trapped in the cooling system, Dexcool has this habit of turning into mud/sludge looking mess - On GM cars, I have seen this firsthand; if you're looking to purchase a GM car that is running Dexcool, first thing to check BEFORE a testdrive is the radiator cap; open 'er up & look for mud on the cap seal... if you see any, run away! Soon you'll be replacing the radiator, hoses, heater core & flushing the mess out of the system. If you're lucky, you won't be changing the haed gaskets yet... Shops I used to call on would ditch the Dexcool & refill back with green coolant after doing engine/cooling system repairs on out of warranty cars.

I haven't had time to follow all the posts, but are some people switching their Benz cooling systems over to Dexcool? Why?

BNC

We're talking about Zerex G-05, which isn't Dexcool. G-05 is the same stuff Mercedes dealers sell you for $27 bucks a bottle, but G-05 costs $11.99.

Zerex touts its advantages over Dexcool on the back of the bottle -- it doesn't eat up the cooling system. The website says you can even mix it with a little green stuff in a pinch, although the manufacturer claims it will "shorten the lifespan" of the G-05.

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Coolant runs through the cooling system in the engine. When someone makes statements that the green stuff works fine in a MB engine, they are ignoring what may be happening inside the cooling passages. I have read posts from MB shop owners , who have witnessed the corrosion effects of improper coolant.

I can't for the life of me understand why someone would risk their engine in order to save what MB Dealer antifreeze $20 bucks a gallon versus Green , make up a number $8 per gallon. So we are talking saving $12 dollars over 2 years equals $6.00 per year!

Use what the MB recommends or the equivalent G-05.

Steve

And this "G-05" is what started the woes on ChinaClippers car?