Hoping someone can clear this up. Doing tons of searches on this site and others to see what sealants guys are using for a front upper timing cover job on a '94-95 E320. Or, in general, what MB is recommending today for most engine applications.

Can anyone tell me the differences between these MB sealants?

002-989-45-20
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0029894520 - $39.75
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002-989-73-20-10
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002989732010 - $6.90
(when I do a search on fastlane, it lists 003-989-98-20-10)

Is this what is known as loctite 5900? Or Permatex "the right stuff"?
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003-989-98-20-10
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A 003 989 98 20 10
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003989982010 $11.63

Does this MB part# supercede 002-989-73-20-10?

And is this what is known as loctite 5900? Or Permatex "the right stuff"?
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001 989 61 20 10
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001989612010 26.25

Steve Brotherton lists # 001 989 61 20 10 used for the dabs in the corner.(upper timing cover). And # 002 989 47 20 10 for the metal-to-metal surfaces.

The link to his fantastic writeup. http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic100345.html

Man, I would really appreciate any guidance on sealants. I'm about to head out in a minute (6:30 a.m.) to try and round up some Permatex "the right stuff" so I can do the cover today. But I may hold off until I can get the correct MB sealant.

I've used 003-989-98-20-10, but it takes forever to cure - and I'm about out!
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Many, many thanks!

MB part number 003-989-98-20-10 is Loctite 5970...

That is the ONLY sealant that you need for metal to metal surfaces on MB engines!.. Does require at least 1-2 hr setting time

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DOC, would applying that sealant around the oil pan effectively stop/reduce a leak from the oil pan gasket, which apparently is a major job to replace in a 1988 w124? Thanks.

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Thanks MBDoc --- I called my local MB dealer, and they verified that is the sealant they use/recommend for nearly **all** applications.

But --- I did end up getting a "can" of The Right Stuff. And used it earlier today on my upper front cover reseal. It really seems to dry fast - seems like good stuff. I'll report in another post how it did for me.

Thanks again.

BTW - I moved to Texas from Lilburn, Ga. I lived off of Killian Hill (south Indian Trail) just south of Hwy 29. I've been to Snellville several times

Just to follow up. Did **two** front cover reseals on my '95 E320 this weekend using "The Right Stuff". Well, it was the WRONG STUFF. The cover is still leaking from the passenger side corner.

Now, I know my head gasket has receeded. And I probably need to replace it with the newer design gasket. But I thought I could at least temporarily stop things from leaking. Wrong!

I will order the MB stuff MBDoc recommended and try again this next weekend. And if that doesn't do it, it's time to pull the head.

Here we go again! Basically this is a controversial topic. I did a little write-up on it a while ago:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=120808
and
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/M103TimingCoverReseal

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I'll bump this 'cause I'm a bit confused myself - I have seepage from the right front oil pan right around that bolt - exactly like the pic in the STAR service manual which says to use the 002 989 45 20 sealer. Is this in lieu of replacing the oil pan gasket? Is the intent to just try and seal the area that is leaking without dismantling anything?

Thnx,
Bill

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Bill, which bolt are you referring to? And which service manual procedure? From memory, on the OM603 oil pan the clear silicone sealer is only used in a small dab at the 3-way junction of pan, block, and timing cover. Depending on where exactly your leak is, you may be able to apply some RTV externally as quick fix.

The M104 front cover being discussed previously is a different animal; also on the M104 the fan bearing bracket will leak oil if the orange anaerobic sealant isn't used on the bolt threads as noted in the FSM... I have a feeling a LOT of people don't do this, and then wonder why they have a leak.

Ahh, perhaps I should have posted differently due to the engine difference?

That is exactly what I was hoping.

Anyway, from my STAR service manual: my leak is exactly where the arrows are pointing on the right side. It is just a gradual seep with drops right on the bolt head.



Bill

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