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OMEGAMAN 08-04-2006 07:00 PM

97 E320 missfire
 
I have a 97 E320 with the 104 engine. This thing had a missfire on #1 cyl. I replace the plugs with the recomended Bosch and the coil connectors. I still have a missfire on #1.
When I replaced the plugs they were worn out and I had p103 missfire code and random multiple missfire code.Now all I get is the P103 code for #1 cyl and the computer will not turn on #1 injector. I have checked the wiring between the injector and computer with no trouble found. Also I have inspected the secondary ignition and found no problems either.
I am assuming the computer has shut down #1 injector because of the missfire. What do i need to do to get this injector firing again? The only scan tool I have access to is a generic OBDll which will clear the codes and turn off the light but the miss remains and the light comes on right away.

Thanks in advance.

Arthur Dalton 08-04-2006 08:14 PM

Move the coil and see if the code moves with it..

Gilly 08-04-2006 08:58 PM

Good idea Arthur, you could also do the same with the injector,or even the plug. Just do 1 thing at a time though.
Gilly

OMEGAMAN 08-04-2006 09:56 PM

moving coil
 
I'll try moving the coil when I get home tonight but I doubt it will change anything as #6 cyl fire and that is the cyl that shares the coil with #1.
I know #1 injector is not being pulsed because I put a test bulb in there and got no responce, also I hooked up my meter and got no pulse width reading but on #2 inj I got 2.8 ms at idle.

Oh yeah I dont know where the hell I got the idea that was a p103 code I think it 301. I'm slowly loosing my mind.

Arthur Dalton 08-04-2006 10:07 PM

<< but I doubt it will change anything as #6 cyl fire and that is the cyl that shares the coil with #1.
>>

On waste spark systems , the plugs are in a series circuit , so one can fire to ground without the other firing.
But you may well have a bad injector or ECU trigger.
I would still try the recommend of coil swap.

OMEGAMAN 08-05-2006 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton
<< but I doubt it will change anything as #6 cyl fire and that is the cyl that shares the coil with #1.
>>

On waste spark systems , the plugs are in a series circuit , so one can fire to ground without the other firing.
But you may well have a bad injector or ECU trigger.
I would still try the recommend of coil swap.

You were right! I swaped coils 1/6 with 2/5 and the miss followed so I measured the resistance on the bad coil and it has a short between the primary side and the secondary. I will order a coil tomorrow. Thanks for the help I guess I needed to do my homework and use my head a litle more. Working on locomotives is bad for the brain.

Arthur Dalton 08-05-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMEGAMAN
You were right! I swaped coils 1/6 with 2/5 and the miss followed so I measured the resistance on the bad coil and it has a short between the primary side and the secondary. I will order a coil tomorrow. Thanks for the help I guess I needed to do my homework and use my head a litle more. Working on locomotives is bad for the brain.

Very good...


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