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86560SEL 08-29-2006 12:16 AM

Hot/warm engine stalling continues.... 3.8L V8
 
To update, my 85' 380SE is still stalling when hot/warm, but it has not gotten worse, but it is getting old.

I phoned one of the local Mercedes repair shops and he said it could be the idle control valve, or the computer, or a vacuum line leak. Upon recommendation, I disconnected the idle control valve with the engine running and the idle did go up to 2000 like he said it should. Does this mean that the idle control valve is OK? Seems like the stalling is worse when going into reverse and it harshly engages into reverse, especially when the engine is hot. I am assuming this harshness is a different problem.... ??

He said to use brake cleaner and spray around to check for vacuum line leaks? This seems dangerous, since this is extremely flammable? Or am I being to paranoid? He also said I could remove the valve and spray WD-40 in it, but I am assuming this is if there was no change on the idle when I removed the connection from the valve? There was the RPM increase.

I do not know what else to do. I had about decided to get a brand new car, but after looking at them, seeing the prices and the low quality that seems to plague many of the cars these days, I think I may be better off keeping my 85' 380 for awhile longer (at least until the timing chain/rails break- then part it out, because with lifter chatter on the passenger side and 270K miles, I do not want to spend alot of money on it, as I have already got my monies worth out of it). Still may get a new one (some good ones out there) and keep this as a second car at the least, so I would really like to get it repaired.

Any further advice about my stalling problem would be appreciated.

mbdoc 08-29-2006 08:28 AM

The 3.8 motors don't have a idle air by-pass like the later 4.2 & 5.6 engines have. That by-pass was added to help with stalling problems.

IF you replace the 2 rubber hoses on the idle valve with the "new" modified ones they come with the idle air by-pass. that should help with your stalling problem..that is a MB fix for that problem. try that before spending big $$$$

gmercoleza 08-29-2006 09:05 AM

Check out this thread: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=155624&highlight=fuel+pump+relay

86560SEL 01-27-2007 11:04 PM

Mb Doc.....
 
MB DOC - do I need to get these hoses from the dealer?


Quote:

Originally Posted by M.B.DOC (Post 1260764)
The 3.8 motors don't have a idle air by-pass like the later 4.2 & 5.6 engines have. That by-pass was added to help with stalling problems.

IF you replace the 2 rubber hoses on the idle valve with the "new" modified ones they come with the idle air by-pass. that should help with your stalling problem..that is a MB fix for that problem. try that before spending big $$$$


86560SEL 02-02-2007 11:24 PM

Do I need to get these hoses from the dealer?

Thanks.

mbdoc 02-05-2007 08:02 AM

Doesn't matter where you get them...


MB part numbers 116-094-12-91, 116-094-13-91, & 116-997-16-52.

The end of the plastic tube needs to be trimmed on one end so that air can flow thru it.

86560SEL 02-06-2007 12:36 AM

Thanks Doc!!

spqrzilla 02-06-2007 11:32 PM

Thanks for the info, M.B.Doc, but could you expand on the trimming required? Much appreciated.


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