can-bus
 

does anybody know if a w202 1997 C180 has can-bus ???

Hoping to install Xenon on my car, but want it leagel... and then it gone cost waaay to much without canbus

Not sure how this would affect installing Xenon lights. No I don't believe there is any CAN on a 97 202, everything should be hard wired, but I would think this would be an advantage, if any difference at all.
Gilly

hmm
 

i was told that i need CAN and level sensors (or what u call it) on both fron and back axel to install xenon lights..

Isnt that correct ???

cannibus?

not from the factory.

tom w

Actually it is Can-i-bus. Has to come from Canada for that model. I believe that will work. I would try if I had some. Will definitely make the lights very bright.

Mike

europe
 

it's norwegian :-) made in germany...
and according to the "guys" with bit more experience than me, i need sensors on both front and bax axel and can-i-bus...

not sure where to get it, what it does or anything...
so i'm out fishing :-D

CAN is Controlled Area Network (i-bus is information bus, different terms for same thing, BMW uses the term "I Bus"). It's the system whereby different control modules share information on a single wire, instead of a bunch of different wires going between modules. Saves alot of weight. Don't think it has anything to do with your lights. Yes to do the system correctly there are level sensors to keep the lights aimed down the road. I think on a 202 it might have all been hardwired.
Gilly

on all mercedes, xenon level sensors are hard wired. One on the rear sway and one on the front.

I don't think it's accurate to say "all Mercedes". The sensors may be on a CAN on a newer MB. On a 202 I think they are hard wired. I also think it's 2 sensors up front and one rear.
Gilly

I actually changed it to MOST mercedes but for some reason it did not take the edit. 202,203, 208,209,210,211,220,219,215,463,163,164,r129,r230 are all hard wired.

Which leaves what cars where the level sensors are on a CAN???
Gilly

ehh
 

got lost here somewhere

Does that mean that i dont need the CAN, just sensors ??? or are the sensors there, i just need to hook it all up ????

You can't just "add" a CAN, either the car has it or it doesn't.
Gilly

u should chk out www.club202.com to search if any of those members have installed xenon units.

how come they call it canbus and not multiplex?

They don't call it canbus, they call it CAN, Controller Area Networking. Multiplexing is a generic term for single wire communications betwen multiple control units (it's actually 2 wire for redundancy and other reasons). Other manufacturers can call it different things. I think it falls back on what "language" the systems use. BMW is kind of quick to use the "multiplexing" name, MB very rarely referrs to multiplexing as a generic term, pretty much stick to "CAN" in their references. BMW also uses the name "I-Bus" (information bus)
Gilly

if you want to add xenons to a 202, you will need to get a body harness that runs from both headlights to both sensors. You do not need to worry about CAN.

but i need sensors
 

but i need to get some sensors ?
is that an easy job or do i need to change both axels ?

You might have to modify the front control arms. There are probably brackets for the 2 front sensors (assuming I am right that there are 2 front) and also for the rear sensor. There will be a clamp required for the rear anti-sway bar. The sensors will need to be in a certain range to work with the control unit, there will be a little hit-or-miss in getting them set correctly. Then the headlights themselves will need to be initialized with the shop computer. Best bet is to find an MB kit for this, as there will also be a diagnostic link required to get the shop computer to communicate with the HRA control module. May be easier to just go aftermarket and have the Xenon bulbs only. HRA will be a headache but people have done it.
Gilly

Gilly,

I think there is one sensor on the front of the 202 and one in rear. As Gilly stated, you DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE AXELS! You mount the sensors on the sway bars or control arms and body. I am not sure how the 202 is but on my 203, the rear sensor bracket is under the rear right spring so removal of the spring is necessary to install the bracket .

looks good so far then :-)
 

Gone get the car up in the air and check...
does anybody know if i can go an buy a new wire set for it ?
or do i have to get a "second hand" one ??

and same with sensors ???

I think MB sold a "kit" complete with the headlights, HRA module, harnesses, sensors, etc.
Gilly