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kanio 09-19-2006 06:41 PM

water pump quality from autohauz
 
I purchased a water pump from ******** for my 92 400E. The sealing surfaces for the 2 paper gasket are as cast. One of the as-cast sealing surface is between the block and pump, the other one is between the top block and the pump. Traditionally, all sealing surface is machined to provide a good flat surface with good surface roughness. Has anybody uses their as-cast seal surface pump and has success?

sixto 09-19-2006 07:42 PM

Is ******** the brand of water pump or did you buy it from ***************?

Sixto
93 300SD

Strife 09-19-2006 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanio (Post 1281312)
I purchased a water pump from ******** for my 92 400E. The sealing surfaces for the 2 paper gasket are as cast. One of the as-cast sealing surface is between the block and pump, the other one is between the top block and the pump.

I find this hard to believe as normal. Maybe someone forgot to do the machining process?

Rockman59 09-19-2006 08:40 PM

You should call ******** and talk to their parts manager. The company has a great reputaton and I'm sure they will take care of you if there is a problem.

gmercoleza 09-19-2006 09:32 PM

Shouldn't the pump-to-block o-ring compensate for any surface irregularities?

deanyel 09-20-2006 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockman59 (Post 1281394)
You should call ******** and talk to their parts manager. The company has a great reputaton and I'm sure they will take care of you if there is a problem.

******** might have a great reputation - but which one? There's so many of them.

Rockman59 09-20-2006 12:20 PM

******** might have a great reputation - but which one?
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I am not going to post the name on this board which is sponsored by MercedesShop.com. Not cool. In my first reply it didn't occur to me that there are probably a dozen ********' around the country.

kanio 09-20-2006 01:45 PM

It was a GRAF water pump.

I used to work as a design engineer in the auto industry. It has been a tradition that all seal surfaces should be machined. It been that for many years until cost come into the pictures. By using as-cast sealing surface, we saved a lot of cost by not machining the parts. American car makers loves this concept. We have sell compoents that use as-cast sealing surface.

The surface roughness and flatness criteria need to be slack in order for a as-cast seal surfaces. Normally, a machined surface will have a 32Ra and a flatness of the overall surface to be .005" (for a face seal). A as-cast seal surface will be 128Ra, with a .005" or more over certain surface area, not the entire seal surface.

We have success using as cast seal surface. However, I don't know the longevity of the seal and our company never used it on a paper gasket, just o-rings.

Of course the pump of got could be a miss-operation on the machining cell. However, I see it was tapped on the as-cast seal surface, so I doubt it was not mahcined. You always face the surface before you drill and chamfer into it.


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