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jlomon 11-20-2006 03:54 PM

Emissions Test - What causes increase of HC?
 
The car: 1994 C280 with 95,000 miles.

I just did my emissions certification on the car, as we have to do every two years. I passed, but when I compared the results to the test from two years ago, my HC ppm had increased dramatically. I had 17 ppm at idle and 33 ppm at 25 mph (I'm allowed up to 55 before I fail). Two years ago it was 0 and 0. What could cause such a large increase in HC? I brought the car into the test hot, having done a 20 mile run up the highway to heat it up for the test. I have a failed air pump, but as the car was started hot (it was on the test apparatus within 5 minutes of arriving) I don't think that has anything to do with it. I also intermittently get a code for a failed purge valve, but I just clean it out with Arthur Dalton's trick when I get the code.

Any ideas? If I increase the same amount in two years, I'll fail then. The plugs have less than 7,000 miles on them, as do the plug wires/boots and the MAF.

Thanks,

Jonathan

david s poole 11-20-2006 04:48 PM

when did you last change the oil?

manny 11-20-2006 04:52 PM

The simple answer?
1. Ignition related items ( plugs, etc. )
2. oil consumption ( minute amounts ).
3. Catalytic converter degrading.
Remember you're reading parts per million.
Just because your numbers are up from 2 years ago does NOT mean they will continue to climb. ;)

Rick76 11-20-2006 06:39 PM

What grade of fuel have you been using?

jlomon 11-20-2006 08:08 PM

David: the oil is changed religiously every three months, which amounts to about 1500 miles per oil change.

Manny: I refreshed all the ignition related items a little over a year ago, which amounts to about 7000 miles (plugs, wires and the three plungers below the coils). The car doesn't use any measurable amount of oil between oil changes. I hope that doesn't mean a catalytic converter, but with my luck it probably will. Its always the most expensive thing.

Rick: Premium fuel only, 91 Octane.

manny 11-20-2006 08:58 PM

You worry too much. :D
If the car was tested again tomorrow, your HC's could be down ( or up ) 10, 20, 30 ppm.
How do I know,........I test exhaust emissions every day ( with my own 5-gas analyzer). ;)

mpolli 11-21-2006 12:54 PM

Is there any chance it could be the O2 sensor(s) "getting old"?

Mike

cf 11-21-2006 01:51 PM

Temperature of system?
 
We have a 97 C280 with the inline 6, which have gone through several emission tests.
My experience is:
Cold -when I drove the car short trip (say, 10km) to test the HC was high.
Warm - when I drove it longer say 30km on highway to test the HC was always very low.
I believe the catalytic converter needs to warm up to perform well.



CF

tursun01 11-18-2007 08:18 PM

failed test
 
I failed my inspection test,because my HC is reading 119 and HO% is reading 0.83, what can i do to fix that?

manny 11-18-2007 08:32 PM

Year & model of car would help. ;)

tursun01 11-18-2007 08:46 PM

failed test
 
its a c280 mercedes 1995

manny 11-18-2007 08:53 PM

Lots of questions:
1. What are your limits for HC and CO ?
2. When was the last time you did a really good tune-up?
3. Do you have a " Check Engine " light on ?
4. Has the Oxygen sensor ever been replaced ?
5. How is your fuel economy ?
6. How does the vehicle generally drive ?

tursun01 11-18-2007 09:59 PM

reply
 
1)none of the light are lighted up,
2)1 and a half year ago
3)no its not
4)No
5)prety good
6)perfectly

mpolli 11-18-2007 10:14 PM

My vote:

O2 sensor.

manny 11-19-2007 09:22 PM

mpolli

Based on the age of the car, I'm tempted to agree with you but, it bothers me that he does'nt have the Check Engine light on. :confused:
Possibly the catalytic converter " going south "?


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